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Experience of Neoden IN6 reflow oven ?
cgroen:
Hi All,
I'm loosing my mind trying to find a suitable reflow oven (small batches, prototypes etc)! I have the usual china (962 something) oven that does not exactly do a good job, I use a reFlowr for single sided small prototype boards (which actually works very nicely), but I need something bigger (biggest board right now is 260 x 100 mm).
I have looked at a large number of different ovens! I had fallen (somewhat) in love with the DDM Novastar GF-B-HT, but it seems pretty impossible to get my hands on that in Europe?!
Then I stumbled over the Neoden IN6, a (somewhat) new oven, at a reasonably pricetag (almost seem too cheap compared to "the others") ?
But, do any of you use the IN6 regularly, is it "working" or is it just marketing BS ??
https://printtec.nl/contents/en-uk/p4357_Neoden-IN6-Conveyor-Reflow-Oven.html
SMTech:
@VladaAca has an IN6 maybe they could share their experience. The other small Chinese oven that has been mentioned is the T961 which has hot air top and IR underside heating, it has be better than a drawer based unit.
Comparing pictures/video of the two I would suggest the IN6 started with a T961, added a sexier shroud and a different controller, although there is no sign of anything heating the lower side at all on the IN6 - culd be an interesting mod if you need an extra bit of oomph in the last zone.
cgroen:
--- Quote from: SMTech on February 01, 2020, 12:57:32 pm ---@VladaAca has an IN6 maybe they could share their experience. The other small Chinese oven that has been mentioned is the T961 which has hot air top and IR underside heating, it has be better than a drawer based unit.
Comparing pictures/video of the two I would suggest the IN6 started with a T961, added a sexier shroud and a different controller, although there is no sign of anything heating the lower side at all on the IN6 - culd be an interesting mod if you need an extra bit of oomph in the last zone.
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Thanks, I hope not that too much of the 962 has creeped into the IN6 :-X
I need a solution that I don't have to tingle with, something that is working out of the box (I know, I need to do profiling and stuff), my goal is not to make a reflow oven :)
(I also buy a hammer to smack nails in wood, I don't make the hammer myself)
I'm just not convinced that the IN6 is "good enough". The DDM I have knowledge about will do the job, it just seems to be impossible to get it somewhere in europe...
SMTech:
There's a tiny used DDM on on eBay from the UK if you wanted a road trip. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/APS-NovoStar-GF-12HC-Gold-Flow-Benchtop-Reflow-Oven/113912787092?
I see no reason why you would think your preferred DDM would be any better than a T961 or IN6 belt oven. They are both heavily compromised belt ovens that can handle small production runs if you work within their limitations, they have multiple zones which helps get that profile as well as making it easier to make 10 boards rather than 1.
I wouldn't say either of them are "too cheap" there's not exactly much to them you can get bigger entry level production ovens that don't come from China in the £10-15K range there really isn't much excuse for the £3000 glorified catering ovens you see getting sold to labs. The ultimate solution would I think could come from the guys on here who are experimenting with DIY Vapor Phase perhaps coming up with a kit, its clearly possible to to build one for a fraction of what the commercial ones cost.
cgroen:
--- Quote from: SMTech on February 01, 2020, 08:11:08 pm ---There's a tiny used DDM on on eBay from the UK if you wanted a road trip. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/APS-NovoStar-GF-12HC-Gold-Flow-Benchtop-Reflow-Oven/113912787092?
I see no reason why you would think your preferred DDM would be any better than a T961 or IN6 belt oven. They are both heavily compromised belt ovens that can handle small production runs if you work within their limitations, they have multiple zones which helps get that profile as well as making it easier to make 10 boards rather than 1.
I wouldn't say either of them are "too cheap" there's not exactly much to them you can get bigger entry level production ovens that don't come from China in the £10-15K range there really isn't much excuse for the £3000 glorified catering ovens you see getting sold to labs. The ultimate solution would I think could come from the guys on here who are experimenting with DIY Vapor Phase perhaps coming up with a kit, its clearly possible to to build one for a fraction of what the commercial ones cost.
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Thanks for the pointer to the oven on Ebay, but the "Heavy Wear & Tear ALL Over unit" kinda puts me off, plus the driving ;)
The DDM, I would not say its my "preferred" one, its just that I have seen a couple of satisfied users on that, and not much on the IN6. The vapour phase is definitely very interesting, problem is that I'm already short on time, and I need something "plug&play". (BTW, its not the 961 I have, its a china drawer based one, which is absolutely crap)
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