JLC Assembly - Digikey orders being cancelled

[ebastler]

OP's flag is UK, yet ECCN is American from U.S. Department of Commerce so I got a little confused over the middleman rules.
I thought Digi-Key in Europe would not involve the USA 

I would very much assume that JLCPCB order parts from Digikey in the U.S. (where, I believe, all of Digikey's inventory is anyway).

[mikeselectricstuff]

I think "no"- it's very difficult to ID parts on a sanctions or tariff list. When they aren't on the list, there is a delay and constipation regardless if it's even a North American distributor, as admin people try to figure it out or give up. How the danger semi's are classified is very difficult for non-English speaking or non-technical people. Export category varies with country as well. It's just easier to cancel the order.

You might have missed jduncan's post which explained that the export restriction is indicated right on Digikey's website (see below). JLCPCB could easily poll that export classification from Digikey together with the price and stock info, and if it is not one of the "all clear" categories, exclude the part from their Global Sourcing program. That's what I was suggesting they should do.

If you look at the part on Digikey's website, you can see it's ECCN 3A991A2. This indicates its export is tracked by the US government, REQUIRING Digikey to refuse export of these without a license.

OP's flag is UK, yet ECCN is American from U.S. Department of Commerce so I got a little confused over the middleman rules.
I thought Digi-Key in Europe would not involve the USA 

Digikey do not ship from Europe- it's all in the  USA

[Selectech]

I've had some issues getting 3A991A2 parts to JLC.
Digikey usually ok, although had a couple of cases last year that didn't work out. Seemed to be better this year after JLC started asking about end use when placing the order. 32 bit ARM controllers, > 25 Mhz clock rates.
Could not get any 3A991A2 parts from Mouser to JLC this year at all. Other simpler parts from Mouser went ok.

Anything that's warehoused in the US is subject to these issues. I did manage to get some 3A991A2 parts that were warehoused in UK to JLC.

Keep advance stock in JLC 'MyParts" to be sure to have parts I need when I'm ready to build.

[mikeselectricstuff]

There is now a Fedex tracking number for my Mouser order so fingers crossed.

[tooki]

I thought Digi-Key in Europe would not involve the USA 

Literally impossible to not involve USA, since Digikey has only one warehouse for the entire planet, and it’s in USA. Same for Mouser.

[floobydust]

I don't expect US tariffs to get added on for European shipments? 

[ebastler]

I don't expect US tariffs to get added on for European shipments? 

US tariffs apply to items imported into the US. We are discussing exports from the US here, right?

[floobydust]

Isn't the part exported from the USA to JLC for assembly then sent back to the UK or is it the USA?
It's hard with the shell-game but when I looked further into it, there are proceedings for unlawful semiconductor exports to russia, iran etc. military and drone parts, for years now.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/chinese-nationals-charged-illegally-exporting-us-origin-electronic-components-iran-and

Defendant Illegally Transferred Hundreds of Thousands of Dual-Use Semiconductors to Sanctioned Russian Entities with Ties to the Military and Intelligence Agencies
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/businessman-pleads-guilty-export-and-tax-charges-connection-shipments-sensitive-technology

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/virginia-company-and-two-senior-executives-charged-illegally-exporting-millions-dollars-us

"As alleged, the defendants operated an e-commerce website that allowed Russian customers to order U.S. goods and technology directly from U.S. retailers, who shipped the items to Eleview’s warehouse in Chantilly, Virginia. The defendants then consolidated the packages before shipping them to the Russian customers, often using other freight forwarders as intermediaries, in exchange for a fee. After the Department of Commerce imposed stricter export controls in response to Russia’s further invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, the defendants began shipping items to purported end users in Turkey, Finland, and Kazakhstan, knowing that the items were ultimately destined for end users in Russia."

It's wrecking it for all of us - the small guy, the small business trying to buy parts, when it's multi-million $ shell companies at work ordering from distributors.

edit: keeps modifying the URLs'

[ebastler]

I still don't understand what that would have to do with the US tariffs you had mentioned?

[bson]

I don't expect US tariffs to get added on for European shipments? 

US tariffs apply to items imported into the US. We are discussing exports from the US here, right?

It's complicated, because it may be a re-export and tariffs can be deferred.  You'll see this if you buy an imported part and a sec. 301 tariff is added to the line item.  This is because a distributor doesn't have to pay tariffs on an entire shipment and can instead collect it from their customers as a separate fee, or tax.  I'm sure if they turn around and ship deferred-tariff parts internationally they incur a documentation burden that makes small orders (like mine below, for qty 5) unrealistic.  Don't think this is relevant to the OP, but I thought I'd just mention it for completeness...

BTW, ITAR is not a U.S. thing, it's an international treaty.  It's just that some nations handle treaties as government or legislative guidelines, while in the U.S. when the Senate ratifies a treaty it does so in the form of adopting a law.  Which then applies to the government.  If it's not law, i.e. the fallout of violating it is political rather than judicial, then it's much easier to adopt a "flexible" interpretation in the face of pressure from industry.

[mikeselectricstuff]

Tracking shows parts from Mouser arrived in HK on Monday, appeared in my JLC parts lib on Friday.
JLC say this delay is due to customs clearance.

I talked to Digikey at Electronica - they say they usually enquire with the purchaser (JLC) if they need info on the end-user, and cancel if they get no reply within 3 days. I suspect that's what happened