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Re: Pace ADS200 solder station. Production-grade quality at about $200
« Reply #1200 on: January 02, 2020, 10:24:39 am »
Didn't want to thread jack, can someone please share what plug is used on the Pace SMR handles? I can find other Pace connectors in Amphenol's catalog, besides this one.
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Re: Pace ADS200 solder station. Production-grade quality at about $200
« Reply #1201 on: January 02, 2020, 12:31:25 pm »
Didn't want to thread jack, can someone please share what plug is used on the Pace SMR handles? I can find other Pace connectors in Amphenol's catalog, besides this one.
Well that is threadjacking. If you want to make someone aware of another thread, send them a PM.

In that thread, I gave you a plausible answer (and supplier) 4 days ago, and you never reacted.
 

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« Reply #1202 on: January 03, 2020, 10:19:32 am »
In that thread, I gave you a plausible answer (and supplier) 4 days ago, and you never reacted.

Posting here to see if this exact connector is available.

I ordered a connector suggested by you, awaiting shipping arrival for test fit before I reply. Thanks, and Smile!

 

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« Reply #1203 on: January 31, 2020, 12:54:31 pm »
I have upgraded all my stations to  ADS200 a few weeks now and very happy with them.

I have one problem with the "auto set back" and "auto off" functions:
When the unit enters "auto set back" simply lifting the handpiece resumes normal operation, ramp up is fast and works perfectly.
When the unit enters "auto off" lifting the handpiece does nothing, one of the keypad buttons needs to be pressed. This can be frustrating, can it be set to exit the "auto off" mode on lifting the handpiece? Why else would I lift the handpiece if I didn't want the unit to ramp up?
I know its possible to disable the "auto off" but I quite like the feature, it's beneficial for saving tips and safety.

Is there a way to have the unit exit "auto off" mode when the handpiece is lifted?
 

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« Reply #1204 on: January 31, 2020, 03:17:29 pm »
Auto setback will lower your tip temp after a designated time after you put the iron in the stand assuming you have an auto setback stand.  Auto off is set at a default of 60 minutes and the timers starts after the unit goes into setback and is not used for that amount of time.
 

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« Reply #1205 on: January 31, 2020, 04:24:17 pm »
Yes that's how it works with my stand. I just cant understand why it doesn't wake from "off" when I pick up the iron again. It seems there is no solution unless they change the firmware.
 

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« Reply #1206 on: January 31, 2020, 04:37:35 pm »
Maybe one situation they didn't think of when they wrote the firmware. I would disable the auto-off feature. Though I would think pressing a button isn't a real problem, since it takes several seconds to heat up from cold. I don't think I'd hold the iron waiting.

Does it heat up to setback temp when you press a button? Or do you have to lift the iron out of the cubby too?
 

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« Reply #1207 on: January 31, 2020, 05:59:51 pm »
Congrats on the new stations, assume you have the instant setback models from your description. Aaron explained before with the autooff safety feature being config set to 90mins you can get a good lunch break in if you need.

With the stand detection exiting the station out of autooff it would mean if the station was accidentally left on and a cleaner/child/gremlin knocked the handpiece out it would turn on again leaving the full auto setback and autooff timers to count down before turning off again. This perhaps defeats the unattended safety aspect of it.
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Re: Pace ADS200 solder station. Production-grade quality at about $200
« Reply #1208 on: January 31, 2020, 09:46:39 pm »
I have one problem with the "auto set back" and "auto off" functions:
When the unit enters "auto set back" simply lifting the handpiece resumes normal operation, ramp up is fast and works perfectly.
When the unit enters "auto off" lifting the handpiece does nothing, one of the keypad buttons needs to be pressed. This can be frustrating, can it be set to exit the "auto off" mode on lifting the handpiece? Why else would I lift the handpiece if I didn't want the unit to ramp up?

You could argue that is a safety feature.
If you are using "auto set back" then you are just away for a while and it makes sense to turn on on liftoff.
But it's gone into "auto off" then that means you've gone away for a long time (left work or whatever) and forgot to turn it off. In that case a cleaner or someone could come along an knock the iron onto the floor and start a fire or something.
 
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« Reply #1209 on: January 31, 2020, 10:05:21 pm »
Dave I noticed in your Garmin video you were still using the silicon pad to change the tips, did you lose the Pace tip tool tweezers? You should use them it will change your life. :D
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Re: Pace ADS200 solder station. Production-grade quality at about $200
« Reply #1210 on: February 01, 2020, 04:00:40 pm »
Maybe one situation they didn't think of when they wrote the firmware. I would disable the auto-off feature. Though I would think pressing a button isn't a real problem, since it takes several seconds to heat up from cold. I don't think I'd hold the iron waiting.

Does it heat up to setback temp when you press a button? Or do you have to lift the iron out of the cubby too?

Appears to just go to setback temp, though it's fast anyway.

Congrats on the new stations, assume you have the instant setback models from your description. Aaron explained before with the autooff safety feature being config set to 90mins you can get a good lunch break in if you need.

With the stand detection exiting the station out of autooff it would mean if the station was accidentally left on and a cleaner/child/gremlin knocked the handpiece out it would turn on again leaving the full auto setback and autooff timers to count down before turning off again. This perhaps defeats the unattended safety aspect of it.

I have one problem with the "auto set back" and "auto off" functions:
When the unit enters "auto set back" simply lifting the handpiece resumes normal operation, ramp up is fast and works perfectly.
When the unit enters "auto off" lifting the handpiece does nothing, one of the keypad buttons needs to be pressed. This can be frustrating, can it be set to exit the "auto off" mode on lifting the handpiece? Why else would I lift the handpiece if I didn't want the unit to ramp up?

You could argue that is a safety feature.
If you are using "auto set back" then you are just away for a while and it makes sense to turn on on liftoff.
But it's gone into "auto off" then that means you've gone away for a long time (left work or whatever) and forgot to turn it off. In that case a cleaner or someone could come along an knock the iron onto the floor and start a fire or something.

Valid point on the safety, fine as a default but I'd like the option to override that in the settings (all our irons are fixed points)
It's a relatively minor complaint on an otherwise excellent unit.
 

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« Reply #1211 on: February 03, 2020, 01:52:32 am »
Dave I noticed in your Garmin video you were still using the silicon pad to change the tips, did you lose the Pace tip tool tweezers?

Err, no, they are, err, in my lab...
 

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« Reply #1212 on: February 03, 2020, 01:53:22 am »
So what happened to the SMD tweezers? Were they released?
Thinking about getting another base unit just for those, but not sure if you can just get the base station on it's own?
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« Reply #1213 on: February 03, 2020, 07:28:51 am »
Pace may announce it at the IPC APEX EXPO in San Diego this week. I've not seen the new stations sold separately yet, but it's been done in the past.

There is a slot on the left hand side of the stand to store the tip tool. Easier to use than the silicon pad, especially changing hot tips on the tweezers.
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« Reply #1214 on: February 12, 2020, 04:52:25 pm »
I figured if i broke 4 hakko 888 handles, and the new wellers have construction concerns, i will be the owner of a shiny new ads2000  :-/O

How will i know when i get it if it has the auto set-back feature? Am i correct that earlier units dont have this function? I just got the unit on ebay because there was a distributor with them for 240 there, versus 290 on amazon and most other places.

It seems to be a legit distributor, not a random seller.
 

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« Reply #1215 on: February 12, 2020, 05:50:01 pm »
Wow! The prices jumped up quite a bit this year!
 

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« Reply #1216 on: February 12, 2020, 05:53:33 pm »
Wow! The prices jumped up quite a bit this year!

No need to rub it in  ;D ;D
 

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« Reply #1217 on: February 12, 2020, 05:55:04 pm »
If the $239 listing you're referring to is this one...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/184160280194

...then it's not the Instant SetBack unit.  The part number for Instant SetBack ends with -0579, not -0578.

The cheapest ISB unit on eBay is $295, sold by TEquipment, here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/333365788800.

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« Reply #1218 on: February 12, 2020, 06:07:29 pm »
The price increases are rather substantial. I wonder if this was planned?
 

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« Reply #1219 on: February 12, 2020, 06:16:22 pm »
All stations come with configurable timers to go into auto setback (a low temp mode) and auto off (a no temp mode). Wiping the tip or pressing a button will cancel auto setback and pressing a button will cancel auto off.

If you buy the instant setback version of the station, the stand comes with an additional cable and switch. When this is connected to the station you can control another configurable timer called instant setback. After you pick the handpiece it cancels setback and when you return the handpiece to the stand it actives instant setback.
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Re: Pace ADS200 solder station. Production-grade quality at about $200
« Reply #1220 on: February 12, 2020, 07:15:37 pm »
The price increases are rather substantial. I wonder if this was planned?

I doubt the list price has changed significantly, maybe 10% from the introductory price. Tequipment were doing it at a reduced introductory price with the Eevblog discount on top, that shaved off a good $30-40.
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Re: Pace ADS200 solder station. Production-grade quality at about $200
« Reply #1221 on: February 13, 2020, 02:37:53 am »
Thanks for the info, I had quite a few ebay specific discounts i could stack up so i got quite a good deal, even if it's the older, non-instant setback capable model. I suppose it's no huge loss, given what I paid.

I gotta go research the tips for these things, never had Pace before, i will have to un-learn my hakko ways! It looks like the days of buying a dozen clone tips and deciding later what tips i even want are over though  :-DD
 

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« Reply #1222 on: February 13, 2020, 02:44:09 am »
It's not older. Just the non-setback model. You could always devise a setback switch if you're handy. The base unit still has the input for the setback switch.
 

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« Reply #1223 on: February 13, 2020, 02:49:01 am »

I doubt the list price has changed significantly, maybe 10% from the introductory price. Tequipment were doing it at a reduced introductory price with the Eevblog discount on top, that shaved off a good $30-40.

The bottom line is it's now about $40 more than it was regardless of the EEV Blog discount. Tips went up a couple bucks too. I had thought this model was going to stay competitive with Hakko etc. 
 

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« Reply #1224 on: February 13, 2020, 03:04:02 am »
The price increases are rather substantial. I wonder if this was planned?

Original price sheet I have is US$265 for the auto-set back version.

Locally it's AU$500 on special now ex-gst
https://www.mektronics.com.au/pace-ads200-station-with-instant-setback-tool-stand.html
For comparison the Hakko FX-888 is $169
https://www.mektronics.com.au/hakko-fx-888d-digital-soldering-station-genuine-incl-free-roll-of-solder-mc334.html
Not a comparable iron I know, but just shows the huge price discrepancy between the architectures.
The comparable Hakko FX951 though is $419
https://www.mektronics.com.au/hakko-fx-951-lead-free-digital-solder-station.html
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