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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 production station (a JBC killer at $239??)
« Reply #175 on: March 29, 2018, 03:35:32 pm »
It should be pretty easy to devise a mechanism for the setback function. The setback input only needs to be grounded to activate. 

If the barrel of the tip cartridge is at system ground then could possibly be as simple as a single conductor wire to the stand from the switch input, with a contact which touches the cartridge when it's in the stand.

I've used IR sensors before to do this or a nice mechanical switch..  if you get a decent sensor its about as reliable as the mech

I'll most likely end up modding my standard stand with something.. if i do i havent decided if something basic or go for flair
 

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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 production station (a JBC killer at $239??)
« Reply #176 on: March 29, 2018, 03:45:11 pm »
It should be pretty easy to devise a mechanism for the setback function. The setback input only needs to be grounded to activate. 

If the barrel of the tip cartridge is at system ground then could possibly be as simple as a single conductor wire to the stand from the switch input, with a contact which touches the cartridge when it's in the stand.

I've used IR sensors before to do this or a nice mechanical switch..  if you get a decent sensor its about as reliable as the mech

I'll most likely end up modding my standard stand with something.. if i do i havent decided if something basic or go for flair

I was thinking an IR sensor complicates things. And you may not even need a switch.
 

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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 production station (a JBC killer at $239??)
« Reply #177 on: March 29, 2018, 07:27:23 pm »
Talk about a hype train ;)

Been waiting for a high quality robust but affordable station for years.
So finally a decent option in the $200 bracket with real buttons plus a switch on the front!

I caved in, just ordered two stations with 12 of my favorite tips.
Soldering/Rework: Pace ADS200, Pace MBT350
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 production station (a JBC killer at $239??)
« Reply #178 on: March 29, 2018, 09:08:26 pm »
Talk about a hype train ;)

Been waiting for a high quality robust but affordable station for years.
So finally a decent option in the $200 bracket with real buttons plus a switch on the front!

I caved in, just ordered two stations with 12 of my favorite tips.

Nice! What tips did you get?

These are all the ones i got for myself

Pace ADS200 8007-0578
ADS200 AccuDrive, 120 VAC with Standard Tool Stand

Pace 1321-0609-P1
KIT, Mounting Bracket

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Pace 1131-0051-P1
1/8" 30 Degree Chisel (3.18mm)

Pace 1131-0032-P1
MiniWave (3.05mm)

Pace 1131-0003-P1
1/64" Conical Sharp Bent 30 Degree (0.40mm)

Pace 1130-0012-P1
1/32" 30 Degree Chisel (0.80mm)

Pace 1130-0016-P1
3/64" 30 Degree Bent Chisel (1.20mm)

Pace 1131-0001-P1
1/32" Conical Sharp Ext. (0.80mm)

Pace 1131-0010-P1
13/64" Chisel (5.15mm)

Pace 1131-0057-P1
5/16" Chisel (7.95mm)

Pace 1131-0037-P1
1/4" Knife Blade (6.35mm)
 
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 production station (a JBC killer at $239??)
« Reply #179 on: March 29, 2018, 10:09:14 pm »
I may go for the mounting bracket later but I've got something in mind when my rearrange my bench. I ordered the below tips. Few chisels, drag tips, pointy ones, brute force tips. One of the stations may be used for micro tweezers later.

P/N 1130-0012-P1 1/32" 30° Chisel (0.80mm)
P/N 1130-0013-P1 3/32" 30° Chisel (2.38mm)
P/N 1130-0019-P1 1/16" 30° Chisel (1.59mm)

P/N 1130-0032-P1 MiniWave (3.05mm)
P/N 1130-0033-P1 Angled MiniWave (3.05mm)
P/N 1130-0035-P1 Angled MiniWave (2.11mm)

P/N 1130-0003-P1 1/64" Conical Sharp Bent 30° (0.40mm)
P/N 1130-0050-P1 1/128" Conical, Special (0.20mm)

P/N 1130-0037-P1 1/4" Flat Blade (6.35mm)
P/N 1131-0010-P1 13/64" Chisel (5.15mm)
P/N 1131-0013-P1 3/32" 30° Chisel (2.38mm)
P/N 1131-0057-P1 5/16" Chisel (7.95mm)
Soldering/Rework: Pace ADS200, Pace MBT350
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 production station (a JBC killer at $239??)
« Reply #180 on: March 29, 2018, 10:25:47 pm »
I might get a 2nd station if they bundle the tweezers with it later down the road.. almost did the angled miniwaves but figured i'd try out their regular miniwave first and give that a go
 

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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 production station (a JBC killer at $239??)
« Reply #181 on: March 29, 2018, 10:40:49 pm »
I might get a 2nd station if they bundle the tweezers with it later down the road.. almost did the angled miniwaves but figured i'd try out their regular miniwave first and give that a go

Yeah I could have picked up a few more, but it's not a huge deal to order a few extras later. I'm sure someone here eventually will buy the whole set and show it off like those massive Wiha sets. Wait a sec didn't Dave do that? ;D
Soldering/Rework: Pace ADS200, Pace MBT350
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 production station (a JBC killer at $239??)
« Reply #182 on: March 30, 2018, 03:06:30 pm »
I agree 100%, and we'll be adding tips in the near future. By the way, you should check out our "MiniWave" style tips, which are essentially Bevel tips that have a "well" built into them - they look like a spoon but transfer heat really well.
these might also be good for drag soldering, if the edges are sharp enough

Exactly right! These were designed for drag soldering, which we call "MiniWave" soldering, because it mimics miniature wave soldering. See our Process Guide page and click on "Play Video" for a 30 second demo at:

https://www.paceworldwide.com/pacenter/process-guides/i-qfp-02

The spoon portion of the tip holds more solder, allowing you to install more than one side at a time.

PACE to everyone else translation: Hoof tip. :)
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 production station (a JBC killer at $239??)
« Reply #183 on: March 30, 2018, 07:18:16 pm »
Well it doesn’t look like I will have my unit and several tips until 4/5/2018 it was shipped on 3/29/2018
 
I will update the group once I received it and put if through server repairs I have.

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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 production station (a JBC killer at $239??)
« Reply #184 on: March 30, 2018, 07:20:56 pm »
Looking forward to reading the user reviews as people receive their units. Can always allocate a bigger budget for quality tools ;)
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 production station (a JBC killer at $239??)
« Reply #185 on: March 31, 2018, 01:56:57 am »
Looking forward to reading the user reviews as people receive their units. Can always allocate a bigger budget for quality tools ;)

They have sold a few on tequipment.net that plus the 6% EEVblog discount there if you can get it would be sweet, 17 stations left at the time of writing this and going low stock on certain tips.
Soldering/Rework: Pace ADS200, Pace MBT350
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 production station (a JBC killer at $239??)
« Reply #186 on: March 31, 2018, 03:13:30 am »
I plan on getting a new station.  I'll wait for the new firmware. Also waiting to see what the price of the ISB stand will be. And I gotta figure out which tips I want. All these decisions.  :-//
 

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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 production station (a JBC killer at $239??)
« Reply #187 on: March 31, 2018, 11:30:09 am »
@PACE-Worldwide

Aaron,

I have a question.. How would you compare new ADS200 to  existing WJS100 station??
They seem very similar to me...

Thanks!!

Best regards,
Sinisa

 

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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 production station (a JBC killer at $239??)
« Reply #188 on: March 31, 2018, 01:22:42 pm »
Hello Aaron,

This most likely is too early to ask but I'm curious as to what extent AccuDrive technology will be applied to future Pace stations/handpieces? As already mentioned there will be AccuDrive versions of the ST-50, TD-100, and MT-100, but will there be AccuDrive versions of say the ST-100 and/or MBT 350?

Off topic but I've got an issue with my MBT-350. The black knob that adjusts the air flow for Thermojet handpieces is completely loose. Here is a video demonstrating the issue:

https://streamable.com/97vzi

Any idea how to fix this? I got this station for a steal on ebay and this was the only real flaw. Any input would be greatly appreciated!

EDIT: Issue resolved thanks to post #192
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 production station (a JBC killer at $239??)
« Reply #189 on: March 31, 2018, 02:16:37 pm »
Hello Aaron,

This most likely is too early to ask but I'm curious as to what extent AccuDrive technology will be applied to future Pace stations/handpieces? As already mentioned there will be AccuDrive versions of the ST-50, TD-100, and MT-100, but will there be AccuDrive versions of say the ST-100 and/or MBT 350?

Off topic but I've got an issue with my MBT-350. The black knob that adjusts the air flow for Thermojet handpieces is completely loose. Here is a video demonstrating the issue:

https://streamable.com/97vzi

Any idea how to fix this? I got this station for a steal on ebay and this was the only real flaw. Any input would be greatly appreciated!
Welcome to EEVblog. FWiW, that is the oddest 1st posting I've ever seen here on the forum..  :-//  Nice equipment but it looks like your seller lost the original knob or the inside insulator clip and didn't include that info on the ebay listing.. Why wouldn't you just take a picture and send it into support@paceworldwide.com?
 

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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 production station (a JBC killer at $239??)
« Reply #190 on: March 31, 2018, 04:09:45 pm »
Looking forward to reading the user reviews as people receive their units. Can always allocate a bigger budget for quality tools ;)

They have sold a few on tequipment.net that plus the 6% EEVblog discount there if you can get it would be sweet, 17 stations left at the time of writing this and going low stock on certain tips.

you totally can ;)
 

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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 production station (a JBC killer at $239??)
« Reply #191 on: March 31, 2018, 04:58:40 pm »
I got a very generous gift package from Pace today - thank you Aaron.  You guys are super!!  Really looking forward to getting the station from TEquipment on Tuesday.
 

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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 production station (a JBC killer at $239??)
« Reply #192 on: March 31, 2018, 06:00:58 pm »
Any idea how to fix this? I got this station for a steal on ebay and this was the only real flaw. Any input would be greatly appreciated!

That knob has a cap. Pop the cap, there is a screw underneath it to tighten the mandrel to the pot..


Regards,

Sinisa
 
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 production station (a JBC killer at $239??)
« Reply #193 on: April 01, 2018, 11:58:47 am »
Hello Aaron,

This most likely is too early to ask but I'm curious as to what extent AccuDrive technology will be applied to future Pace stations/handpieces? As already mentioned there will be AccuDrive versions of the ST-50, TD-100, and MT-100, but will there be AccuDrive versions of say the ST-100 and/or MBT 350?

Off topic but I've got an issue with my MBT-350. The black knob that adjusts the air flow for Thermojet handpieces is completely loose. Here is a video demonstrating the issue:

https://streamable.com/97vzi

Any idea how to fix this? I got this station for a steal on ebay and this was the only real flaw. Any input would be greatly appreciated!
Welcome to EEVblog. FWiW, that is the oddest 1st posting I've ever seen here on the forum..  :-//  Nice equipment but it looks like your seller lost the original knob or the inside insulator clip and didn't include that info on the ebay listing.. Why wouldn't you just take a picture and send it into support@paceworldwide.com?

Thank you for the welcome! I've been a lurker of these forums for several years actually and if it weren't for these forums I would most likely be stuck with one of those Chinese 4-in-1 soldering stations from Amazon :phew:. Initially I thought Aoyue was top of the line soldering equipment  :-DD but after plenty of google research I learned better with Pace being talked about in these forums  :-+. I got my MBT 350 for such a steal because it was being sold for "Parts/As Is" and it wouldn't even turn on. Turns out I just had to replace the fuse and it was good to go  ;D. My MBT 350 has treated me very well and the only time I ever have an issue with it is when the TD-100 becomes almost unbearably hot when I have to crank up the temperature while working on large ground planes. This makes the ADS200 so very appealing. As for contacting Pace support, I planned on doing that eventually but I wasn't in a hurry since I don't even have a Thermojet handpiece. I figured I'd just throw in my question here since a Pace representative was actively replying to posts.



Off topic but I've got an issue with my MBT-350. The black knob that adjusts the air flow for Thermojet handpieces is completely loose. Here is a video demonstrating the issue:

Nice demonstration. Can you manipulate it fine without the knob? That almost looks like a very thin shim would fix that. Have you tried a thin piece of tape on the shaft and sliding the knob gently back on?

I'll leave it up to Aaron if he has expert opinion.

I wasn't able to turn it without the knob although I tried only with my fingers. I'm sure there was a better alternative to that. I do however appreciate the suggestion!




Any idea how to fix this? I got this station for a steal on ebay and this was the only real flaw. Any input would be greatly appreciated!

That knob has a cap. Pop the cap, there is a screw underneath it to tighten the mandrel to the pot..


Regards,

Sinisa

Thank you very much Sinisa! I had no idea it was that simple. It now seems to turn exactly as it should   :-+. Now I just need to figure out how to come up with $400+ for a TJ-70 and some nozzles... :'(
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 production station (a JBC killer at $239??)
« Reply #194 on: April 01, 2018, 01:31:44 pm »
Now I just need to figure out how to come up with $400+ for a TJ-70 and some nozzles... :'(

I used to own a TJ-70 over 20 years ago and it was a great tool for the time and then tried a TJ-85 a few years ago. Despite their design differences, I noticed the performance is practically the same, yet the TJ-85 is much cheaper. My business needs transitioned to repairing/reworking technology mostly made today, which quickly limited their uses (which is why I eventually sold them).
 
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 production station (a JBC killer at $239??)
« Reply #195 on: April 01, 2018, 05:28:09 pm »
Is the ADS200 manufactured in the US?
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 production station (a JBC killer at $239??)
« Reply #196 on: April 01, 2018, 07:58:48 pm »
I was hoping the Pace Tip Tool was included, that was great decision. I missed it initially while looking through the quick start manual. We can always swat flies with the Hot Grip pad in Australia so it's not a total waste to include it ;).

Soldering/Rework: Pace ADS200, Pace MBT350
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 production station (a JBC killer at $239??)
« Reply #197 on: April 02, 2018, 03:17:38 am »
Is the ADS200 manufactured in the US?

I assume it is, based on the "Made in USA" shown in their brochure, https://assets.tequipment.net/assets/1/26/Pace_ADS200_-_Brochure.pdf
 

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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 production station (a JBC killer at $239??)
« Reply #198 on: April 02, 2018, 03:26:34 am »
Is the ADS200 manufactured in the US?

I assume it is, based on the "Made in USA" shown in their brochure, https://assets.tequipment.net/assets/1/26/Pace_ADS200_-_Brochure.pdf

North Carolina, Aaron mentioned it a few times

Shock:  Yeah that was a nice include... just curious how big is the fly swatter?  :-DD
 

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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 production station (a JBC killer at $239??)
« Reply #199 on: April 02, 2018, 11:05:13 am »
Shock:  Yeah that was a nice include... just curious how big is the fly swatter?  :-DD

Well this is the comparison from the brochure so I would say medium to large flies no problem.
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