SMALLSMT Vision Placer Pick & Place machines

[sparkswillfly]

It looks pretty good.  Looks like he got the auto nozzle changer, so why don't we get to see it place the inductors?  Why isn't it using two heads for the many 0805 parts in a row?  I guess he's only had it for a day. 

[Smallsmt]

Dave did you buy this machine off micheal and pay about $4000 more than you'd buy it from the manufacturer in China?

Andrew if you will my purchasing manager I can earn a lot of money!

[Smallsmt]

Michael, this video looks very promising, congratulation.
Looks like the machine is doing a good job.

I see that the camera is used for the SMD resistors. Is there an advantage over not using the cam ?

Harry you receive a better placement if you do the offset correction by cam if no cam you need to adjust the pickup position more precise for similar results.

[Smallsmt]

It looks pretty good.  Looks like he got the auto nozzle changer, so why don't we get to see it place the inductors?  Why isn't it using two heads for the many 0805 parts in a row?  I guess he's only had it for a day. 

If you receive a pnp machine a lot of things need to be set up before running your first job.
It's better to start step by step and increase the difficulty level after time.
Dave had to produce the boards asap so it's a good result after so short time of training.

[Simon]

Or you can choose to report it, which I will do.

MrPH please stop with the 'genuine' nonsense. Passive aggressive is what it is.

Mr Ar, please stop with the unhelpful comments.   I'm allowed to ask questions.  If you feel they are not valid thats fine. But thats your opinion.

No you are being unneccesarily aggressive and can consider yourself warned!

[sparkswillfly]

If you receive a pnp machine a lot of things need to be set up before running your first job.
It's better to start step by step and increase the difficulty level after time.
Dave had to produce the boards asap so it's a good result after so short time of training.

Yes I know.  So what is msrp of his configured machine, $6800+ship?

[Smallsmt]

If you receive a pnp machine a lot of things need to be set up before running your first job.
It's better to start step by step and increase the difficulty level after time.
Dave had to produce the boards asap so it's a good result after so short time of training.

Yes I know.  So what is msrp of his configured machine, $6800+ship?

Yes you're right including 5 free nozzles.

[Smallsmt]

Our new VP-3000D head design finished!
Vacuum circuits plus driver electronics integrated only CAN bus , air pressure, and power needed to operate.

[Smallsmt]

Meet us on Maker Faire Berlin from 30. September - 2. Oktober http://maker-faire.de/berlin/

[Smallsmt]

We released the first pictures of our new modular PNP machine VP-30XXD made in Germany.

25x 8mm Yamaha CL feeder cassettes on West and East possible
2x Exchangeable disk feeder on East optional
32x 8mm Yamaha CL feeder on North side 7 slots take wider cassettes for 12 and 16mm lines
Totally up to 82x 8mm Yamaha CL feeder cassettes on a single machine!
400x400mm working area for PCB and trays,
Closed loop positioning using linear scale encoder system on XY axis.
Closed loop positioning using Rotary encoder on Z axis.
2x 5 slot nozzle changer
2x USB 2.0 2MP bottom cameras
1x USB 2.0 2MP top camera

 


http://www.smallsmt.biz/2016/10/09/first-pictures-of-vp30xxd-modular-pnp-machine-released/

[harry4516]

this sounds fantastic !
will it have linear drive ?

And what means "made in Germany" ?
Does it mean made in China with a German label on it,
or means it really made by a company located in Germany ? And if yes, what does it mean for the final price ?

[Smallsmt]

this sounds fantastic !
will it have linear drive ?

And what means "made in Germany" ?
Does it mean made in China with a German label on it,
or means it really made by a company located in Germany ? And if yes, what does it mean for the final price ?

We use stepper motor (PRO) or servo motor (PREMIUM) to move X and Y axis. On each axis has a linear scale to measure the axis position. This will be feed back to the position controller so we reach any position on our machine within 0.025mm precision.

means it really made by a company located in Germany

YES
The machine will be build in Germany and use industrial components from Festo / Mitsubishi / HIWIN.

Our machine is modular designed so you can start with the lowest feeder count first and extend the machine over time.
Every module is adressable using CAN network inside the machine.

Preliminary sales price list calculated 09/2016
( 25 / 50 / 57 / 82 feeder slots)          
PRO    including all feeder             without feeder cartridge
VP-3025D    9.950,00 €     7.950,00 €
VP-3050D    13.300,00 €     9.300,00 €
VP-3057D    14.200,00 €     9.650,00 €
VP-3082D    17.500,00 €     10.950,00 €
          
PREMIUM    including all feeder    without feeder cartridge
VP-3025D    11.750,00 €    9.750,00 €
VP-3050D    15.100,00 €    11.100,00 €
VP-3057D    16.000,00 €    11.450,00 €
VP-3082D    19.300,00 €    12.750,00 €

[Ice-Tea]

For my understanding:

VP-3025D for 9950€ is the machine + 25 (Yamaha?) feeders?

[Smallsmt]

For my understanding:

VP-3025D for 9950€ is the machine + 25 (Yamaha?) feeders?

Yes including 25 Yamaha CL 8mm feeders.
But you can buy feeder by yourself no problem used or new!
This machine including 2 disk feeders on North side you can exchange and use for loose part pick up.
So you have 32 more parts on your machine.
The VP-3057 has 2x disk feeder and 57 Yamaha CL feeder.

[harry4516]

wowww, if this comes to reality then I will be one of your first customers. This is exactly what I am looking for.
Please keep us informed about the development progress.

[Smallsmt]

wowww, if this comes to reality then I will be one of your first customers. This is exactly what I am looking for.
Please keep us informed about the development progress.

Thank you Harry,

the design and construction is finished.
We are currently building the prototypes and hope to start the beta phase for interested customers in December.
First release of PC software should be in January 2017.

[wraper]

Does new VP-30xx need external compressed air supply and/or external vacuum pump?
Also, what about vibratory feeders?

[harry4516]

...
We use stepper motor (PRO) or servo motor (PREMIUM) to move X and Y axis. ...

What is the advantage of servo motor vs. stepper motor ?

other question: does it use rods and ball bearings or
linear guides and spindle ?

[ar__systems]

What is the advantage of servo motor vs. stepper motor ?

I keep wondering the same. For some reason lead screws are considered superior technology. It is superior, however I don't see how it can offer any advantage over belt+stepper in this particular application.

[Smallsmt]

Does new VP-30xx need external compressed air supply and/or external vacuum pump?
Also, what about vibratory feeders?

Yes we need external compressor the vacuum is generated inside machine.
Vibration feeder will be added soon and strip holder too.

[Smallsmt]

...
We use stepper motor (PRO) or servo motor (PREMIUM) to move X and Y axis. ...

What is the advantage of servo motor vs. stepper motor ?

other question: does it use rods and ball bearings or
linear guides and spindle ?

Stepper motor system is cheaper but Servo motor system brings more speed more dynamic and less noise.

We use linear guides for our machine because of better precision.
The machine is too big to use spindle system we decided to use belt and linear scales on each axis to feed back position.

[Smallsmt]

What is the advantage of servo motor vs. stepper motor ?

I keep wondering the same. For some reason lead screws are considered superior technology. It is superior, however I don't see how it can offer any advantage over belt+stepper in this particular application.

Lead screws are very good if you don't need long axis. Our HP machine use lead screws plus servo motor and encoder for feed back.
But most of the big pnp machine use linear scales and closed loop positioning instead of spindle because it's comparable solution.
None of the other 10K machines use linear scales or servo motors and linear guides in combination.

[mrpackethead]

Please tell me if i'm wrong.  SmallSMT which is a Chinese company is going to make machines in Germany?     Its a bit scary that Germany now is a more viable proposition for manufacturing than China..     

[Smallsmt]

It is our third machine line and it will fill the gap between prototyping and small production machines. We serve the needs of our Europe customers and finally you will see we are opening a German SMALLSMT Gmbh in January. So we are a German and Chinese company. But why do you care this Andrew Frazer?

[harry4516]

...we are opening a German SMALLSMT Gmbh in January. ...

where will it be located ?