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used sot-23 instead of sot-363 footprint
« on: August 30, 2015, 01:31:24 pm »
 :palm: Yep, goodness knows how i saw SOT-363 as SOT-23, It looks like the pins will just reach the edge of the pads, can I hope for surface tension to centre the chips exactly and hope the 4 outer pins make contact - perhaps touch them with a soldering iron afterwards to make sure they make contact.
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Re: used sot-23 instead of sot-363 footprint
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2015, 04:31:13 pm »
By hand? Glob it on and don't touch the surrounding pins.  Bend the leads if necessary.

By reflow?  Ha.

I've seen SOT-323 used on -23 pads, but not 363.  Which means... you didn't use SOT-23 at all, but SOT-23-6 (SC-74, etc.)?

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Re: used sot-23 instead of sot-363 footprint
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2015, 05:21:43 pm »
I don't know much about packages. I have noticed SOT-23 and SOT-23-3 used interchangeably so assumed the SOT23 refers to the body and that lead spacing and size that can be from 3 to 6.
 

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Re: used sot-23 instead of sot-363 footprint
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2015, 07:27:09 pm »
I don't have a JEDEC or EIA/J library or anything handy, but I suspect SOT-23-(N) has been named in reference, like that, but that the official designations are not.  "SOT-23" refers to one body, officially, as far as I know.

So there are naming conventions coming from several standards bodies, which use a variety of naming conventions (TO-, SO-, SC-, etc.), many of which are similar (compatible) or identical.  TO-236A = SOT-23 = SC70 = ...

I suspect, some of them do specify pinouts parametrically (i.e., "SC-70" can have 3, 5 or 6 pins, by the looks of it), so you need to be specific all the time.

I don't see a lot of talk about these things, or even the publications that they must be coming from.  Not that they'd be free anyway, because, why would they want that?...  Obviously, best practice is, for each and every component you purchase (exactly as purchased, not just the part/family), confirm the package, footprint and pinout.  Bother?  Yep.

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Re: used sot-23 instead of sot-363 footprint
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2015, 07:37:57 pm »
I don't know much about packages. I have noticed SOT-23 and SOT-23-3 used interchangeably so assumed the SOT23 refers to the body and that lead spacing and size that can be from 3 to 6.

Sometimes you see people refer to packages like SOT-25 or SOT-26, or SOT23-5 or SOT23-6, and they're the same thing as far as I'm aware.
 

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Re: used sot-23 instead of sot-363 footprint
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2015, 08:24:13 pm »
I don't know much about packages. I have noticed SOT-23 and SOT-23-3 used interchangeably so assumed the SOT23 refers to the body and that lead spacing and size that can be from 3 to 6.
Sometimes you see people refer to packages like SOT-25 or SOT-26, or SOT23-5 or SOT23-6, and they're the same thing as far as I'm aware.
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Re: used sot-23 instead of sot-363 footprint
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2015, 11:14:34 pm »
I don't know much about packages. I have noticed SOT-23 and SOT-23-3 used interchangeably so assumed the SOT23 refers to the body and that lead spacing and size that can be from 3 to 6.

Sometimes you see people refer to packages like SOT-25 or SOT-26, or SOT23-5 or SOT23-6, and they're the same thing as far as I'm aware.
SOT-23-5 and SOT-23-6 is the same package with 5 or 6 pins. The smaller version is SOT353 and 363. I think the 25 and 26 is not standard way of calling it.
 

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Re: used sot-23 instead of sot-363 footprint
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2015, 12:34:15 pm »
I wish they would standardize on packages. I'm pretty sure some manufacturers make up designations just to be different. I looked up a package today and no images appeared, just a link to the chip I was looking at  in the first place yet is was a simple SOP.

I reflowed my board last night. one of them looks like it made contact. The other one not. I only need one right now so not a problem.
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