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Soldering station - Hakko, JBC, or Pace??

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vstrulev:

--- Quote from: Hydrawerk on September 02, 2022, 03:01:01 pm ---Weller WX2020 is probably good but I have never seen it personally. It is not discussed much on this forum. Are you happy with the RT tips range? https://weller-tools.com/nocompromise/media/pdf/en/RT_Active_Tip_Brochure_GB_en.pdf
Is there a Weller mini spoon tip available? Like these JBC tips? https://www.jbctools.com/cartridges-category-4-design-Spoon-menu-4.html
It is called miniwave by PACE.
https://paceworldwide.com/angled-miniwave-tip_1130-0035-P1

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I own a PnP; a couple of ovens; and hot base/air tool and most of my soldering done on those tools. The Weller 200W is used for large TH components, such as shank terminals and heavy gauge wires. Tweezers I use it for replacing and fixing SMD parts and so far I was able to handle everything I needed. The 120W used for everything else. The Weller reaches the temps super fast, which is important for me. The other nice feature: I have three tools: 200W/120W/and tweezers and I swap them occasionally. All the settings are kept in those irons itself. Even if you change the Weller station and plug your iron in it, it has your profile without you setting this up. Love the Weller. This is very subjective thing as both stations are great. This is why I mention my two cents only ;-)

Hydrawerk:
Well, PACE does not offer any high power soldering station. JBC has the HDE with 250W peak (??) power.
https://www.jbctools.com/hde-heavy-duty-product-933.html
No such station from PACE there. :-(((

jonpaul:
bonjour à tous, just joining this intéressant thread now.
First used soldering irons in 1950s, was Ungar.

As an Engineer and consultant, 1970s..1990s,   TH  prototypes, power supplies, analog, 

1/Préfère  vintage Hakko analog   926, 936,  (photo 1) workhorses, no failures in decades, good temp régulation and safety. Used only genuine Hakko tips
Good cable, great tips, comfortable handle design.
I had not used the newer digital Hakko yellow..blue.

2/ Wellers, were OK, but nothing special, 
No opinion on Pace or   desolder stations.

3/ 1990..1993 I consulted for Raychem/Metcal, to design the 500 kHz resonant current drive SP-200 station for their SmartHeat (tm) system tips.
photo 2

The Metcal patent uses  induction heating in the tip material rather than a separate heater and thermostat or thermocouple.
Very long lasting tips and handles, my 1993 versions are  still in service!

The Metcal tip  temperature is tightly regulated,  fixed by a controlled curie point of tip material.
Design goal similar performance as the original 13.5 MHz  versions, without the issues of the coax cable, connector and less chance of RF interference.
We had to achieve fast warmup, 20 second max from cold to 90% temp,
Temp at tip was tested for the temp/time curve with  a special  thermocouple implanted inside the solder tip
 

4/ Metcal has the Best control of temperature even for massive ground plane or thick Power supply leads and wires. Great for power and SMD rework
My design for  Metcal SP-200 became a classic, 100s k units sold,  licensed to  OK industry and Tech Tool. 
 
photo 3


5/The older 13.5 MHz  versions   coax connectors  can be mismated.  I think the   performance is similar to the 500 kHz., which  used a  4 pin DIN connector.

 
I am now happily retired, I still have my SP-200 prototypes   and   Metcal stations and tips. The alternative is Hakko 936.
Just the ramblings of an old retired EE...
happy soldering...

Bon courage


Jon

thm_w:

--- Quote from: jonpaul on October 06, 2022, 06:16:31 am ---5/ Beware of the older 13.5 MHz ISO versions with coax connector. The connection is flaky. no idea their performance.  My  500 kHz design used a  4 pin DIN connector.

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The coax works OK, but its not self evident how the connection works and some may have been abused.
13MHz performance is a bit better than 500kHz models.

loki42:
I haven't ever tried the 500 kHz options but my Metcal has never had a problem with connections over many 1000 of joints and use by 5 different employees.  I also got it very second hand... if the 500 kHz versions are better I'd he interested to see,  I always assumed they were just the budget end. 

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