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Offline makervier

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Some China PCB manufacturer recommend
« on: October 29, 2013, 08:36:02 am »
I am new comer to eevblog for several weeks ago, I want to share some experience with everyone,this is a question I am frequently encountered from time to time in different forums. I decided to make a list over some Chinese PCB manufacturers.As we all known,there are many PCB manufacturers in China,the prices are relatively low and the quality is very well.

here is a list of PCB manufacturers from China:

http://www.goldphoenixpcb.com
http://www.pcbcart.com
http://www.raypcb.com
http://www.wonderfulpcb.com
http://www.kingbrother.com
http://www.chinapcbboard.com
http://www.kingfordpcb.com
http://www.pcbsino.com
http://www.xdpcb.com
http://www.unitpcb.com
http://www.sunshinepcbgroup.com
http://www.pcbsourcing.com

The list is not in any priority .New board houses may be added along with some comments,I hope this can help someone in need.
If you want to know more about PCB manufacturer all over the world,you can see: http://www.eevblog.com/wiki/index.php?title=PCB_Manufacturers
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Re: Some China PCB manufacturer recommend
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2013, 05:43:36 am »
Thanks for the list,

I am very happy with


http://smart-prototyping.com/Prototyping-Services/Electronic-Prototyping

Ps, don't choose DHL as a shipping option. Took them 6 days to pick it up.

Cheers
 

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Re: Some China PCB manufacturer recommend
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2014, 10:24:46 am »
How much was the shipping to your country? And from which country are you?
 

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Re: Some China PCB manufacturer recommend
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2014, 10:36:55 am »
From the link of "the-wal", it is located in HK, China.

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Re: Some China PCB manufacturer recommend
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2014, 02:46:05 am »
I am new comer to eevblog for several weeks ago, I want to share some experience with everyone,this is a question I am frequently encountered from time to time in different forums. I decided to make a list over some Chinese PCB manufacturers.As we all known,there are many PCB manufacturers in China,the prices are relatively low and the quality is very well.

here is a list of PCB manufacturers from China:

http://www.goldphoenixpcb.com
http://www.pcbcart.com
http://www.raypcb.com
http://www.wonderfulpcb.com
http://www.kingbrother.com
http://www.chinapcbboard.com
http://www.kingfordpcb.com
http://www.pcbsino.com
http://www.xdpcb.com
http://www.unitpcb.com
http://www.sunshinepcbgroup.com
http://www.pcbsourcing.com

The list is not in any priority .New board houses may be added along with some comments,I hope this can help someone in need.
If you want to know more about PCB manufacturer all over the world,you can see: http://www.eevblog.com/wiki/index.php?title=PCB_Manufacturers

do any of these have SinkPad (direct to copper) technology?
 

Offline Prime73

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Re: Some China PCB manufacturer recommend
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2014, 03:03:07 am »
I came across http://pcbshopper.com/
It gives you a list with prices from different vendors based on your board size, number of layers, etc.
 

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Re: Some China PCB manufacturer recommend
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2014, 01:03:35 pm »
here is a list of PCB manufacturers from China:

Check out PCBShopper.com. Its list is different from yours (and includes some First World manufacturers) but it lets you enter the size, layers, and quantity of boards you want and shows you prices from several (currently 19) different manufacturers.

I'm the guy behind PCBShopper and I'm currently wrestling with the question of how many more Chinese manufacturers to add. I could spend the rest of my life adding Chinese manufacturers to the price comparison calculator, but so many of them offer nearly identical services at nearly identical prices that adding more doesn't really provide more value to my users. Meanwhile, there's a definite downside to adding more: the more companies I get prices from, the longer it takes to display all the results.

- Bob Alexander

 

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Re: Some China PCB manufacturer recommend
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2014, 05:59:46 pm »
Hi
Glad to join your community .

About the supplier in China .I think the best one is who can provide good quality , best price and fast service . In addition , their attitude to your gerber design is more important . For many R&D member , when they do layout . they may possible made some bug on design , for example ,some people have the solder mask opening missed , some people get the circuit short , some people put the v-score line in silkscreen instead of mechanical layer , but don't indicate it , as a result , the factory will not do v-cut on the PCB . Some supplier will check your gerber design before production , and give customer useful suggestion , some supplier will not .

So when you choose supplier , if you want to have a long term cooperation with , you should take the quality , price , turn around time into consideration . http://pcbshopper.com/ can list all the price from different China supplier , but it also cost you much time to compare . In China , many different supplier use the same factory for PCB fabrication . I kindly suggest you can choose one fixed supplier , you can negotiate with them about the price and tell them your affordable price . http://www.smiery.com/ is the one which provide full-service company .they help you check your gerber file and suggest a good way to make you low the cost . On the gerber design , they can give you good technical support  .They also provide you China warehouse (http://www.smiery.com/NewsDetails-0-38.html/) , it's worthy trying . If you want to expand your business in China , smiery is a good choice , one time try will save lots of your time in future . Hope this one can help you .  ;)
 

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Re: Some China PCB manufacturer recommend
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2014, 03:35:31 pm »
Check out PCBShopper.com.

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I tweaked my latest design to fit within a 50x100mm constraint (was 2x2.5", so it needed just a little taken off of the sides) and plugged it in.  Maker Studio would've been a little cheaper, but I didn't see anything on their site about how they wanted the gerbers named (seems every manufacturer is slightly different), so I ended up putting an order in with Elecrow.  I had been using OSH Park without any issues, but if I can save a little money, why not?
 

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Re: Some China PCB manufacturer recommend
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2014, 03:50:31 pm »
I had been using OSH Park without any issues, but if I can save a little money, why not?

I'm glad PCBShopper.com saved you some money - that's why I created it.

I designed a board just recently and plugged the specs into PCBShopper. I had expected it to help me choose between a bunch of Chinese manufacturers. I was surprised to see that Accutrace (PCB4U) was only $0.50 more than the cheapest option, and it would deliver in 8 days instead of 26. In my book, that's 50 cents well spent.

But it really struck me that, at least for this particular size board, an American company was the best choice. At the risk of blowing my own horn too much, I never would've known without PCBShopper. I would've just assumed that no American company would be price-competitive.

- Bob

 
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Re: Some China PCB manufacturer recommend
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2014, 06:16:41 am »

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Check out PCBShopper.com. Its list is different from yours (and includes some First World manufacturers) but it lets you enter the size, layers, and quantity of boards you want and shows you prices from several (currently 19) different manufacturers.

I'm the guy behind PCBShopper and I'm currently wrestling with the question of how many more Chinese manufacturers to add. I could spend the rest of my life adding Chinese manufacturers to the price comparison calculator, but so many of them offer nearly identical services at nearly identical prices that adding more doesn't really provide more value to my users. Meanwhile, there's a definite downside to adding more: the more companies I get prices from, the longer it takes to display all the results.

- Bob Alexander
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Bob, thats a great tool!!! I just looked at a company in New Zealand and they wanted $384 for 2 PCB v's $108 for 5 PCB + shipping from China (though the postage was via German Postal Service), still thats a massive saving.  How do you decide on which suppliers you include? Do you do any kind of checking or is this a list of commonly used suppliers that people recommend in forums?, Regards, Chris
 

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Re: Some China PCB manufacturer recommend
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2014, 06:32:12 am »
I've used SeeedStudio's Fusion Service a few times and was quite pleased with the turnaround time and overall quality. They offer several different packages including full assembly service. They recommend using the premium service for panelized boards but as long as you don't mind cutting the boards apart yourself, they do allow panelized boards submitted to the "basic" tier.
 

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Re: Some China PCB manufacturer recommend
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2014, 01:17:45 pm »
I have used both itead and elecrow, both are great. The customer service at elecrow is particularly fantastic
 

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Re: Some China PCB manufacturer recommend
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2014, 01:35:33 pm »
How do you decide on which suppliers you include? Do you do any kind of checking or is this a list of commonly used suppliers that people recommend in forums?, Regards, Chris

Hi Chris,

I started with companies that I had heard about myself, either through magazine ads, blogs or forums. Occasionally, a user will suggest a company or a company will contact me and ask to be included. In any case, a company either needs to describe their pricing formula on their web site or have a web form that PCBShopper.com can fill out and submit to get the price. If the company's policy is that you need to contact their staff to get a price, that's not going to work for PCBShopper.

I'm up to 21 manufacturers now and I'm not as eager to add more at this point. If I add a new manufacturer, it will be because it offers something significantly different from the ones I already have, e.g. a very different pricing structure or a different country of manufacture. (For example, I'd love to add Eurocircuits, but I can't get the code working and my attempt to contact someone there for help went unanswered.)

- Bob
 

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Re: Some China PCB manufacturer recommend
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2014, 06:46:04 pm »
Just had some boards (20 10cmx10cm) from Smart-Prototyping

Exactly 2 weeks inc. DHL delivery to UK. Greatly recommended, looks much better than Seeed Studio et al!
 

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« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2014, 07:03:49 pm »
Just had some boards (20 10cmx10cm) from Smart-Prototyping

Exactly 2 weeks inc. DHL delivery to UK. Greatly recommended, looks much better than Seeed Studio et al!

Hi Chris,

I invite you (and anyone who has experiences, good or bad, with PCB manufacturers) to write a quick review on PCBShopper.com. On PCBShopper's main page, there's a list of manufacturers. Just click one of them, and you'll go to the review page for them.

Especially for a mostly-unknown company like Smart Prototyping, it helps when people share their experiences.

Thanks,
   Bob Alexander
 

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Re: Some China PCB manufacturer recommend
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2014, 09:09:55 pm »
Hi Bob,

I will share my full experience soon. Unfortunately I cannot show any detailed pictures as the design is commercial for the company I work for. The lack of reviews did make the whole process a bit sketchy and I was worried they would not deliver but I am so glad I took the risk.
 

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« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2014, 10:03:53 pm »
I came across http://pcbshopper.com/
It gives you a list with prices from different vendors based on your board size, number of layers, etc.
This etc. is in my last project a few V-cut needed or simply laser cuts in other manufacturer or the same if possible at good price,, but of course this is not possible to optimize for when selecting PCB manufacturer in http://pcbshopper.com/ since it is additional optimization rule  ???

Simply I need to make small 50mm x 12.5mm PCBs, so adding three V-cut's to 5cm x 5cm PCB can do the trick, but sometimes manufacturing 10cm x 10cm and more could be made cheaper, but than higher number of those V-cut is needed, so if we were able to estimate cost of PCB at given size including V-cut costs than we can get real PCB manufacturing cost and than I can decide if to make any V-cut or forget about them and simply manufactured PCB's take to not far away laser cut machine, which should take very small amount of time to make those cuts and they estimate those costs based on DXF CAD drawing, so I could choose optimum manufacturer for those needed PCB cuts.

Any other options to take advantage of lower prices of bigger PCBs, but keep those V-cut's at very low cost while I'd like provide only PCB as a final product, so it could be nice to make those things quite cheap?
For example, it looks like using http://pcbshopper.com/  Smart Prototyping from China of course can do such 1.3 cm × 5 cm   Green   100 items
but this price: $0.56 per each such small PCB
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$45.40 total $0.45 each   Deutsch Post:    $56.40 18 days
is of course NOT 4 times lower than for 5cm x 5cm  $0.71 ::)
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Smart Prototyping China 5 × 5 cm   Green   100   $45.40 total $0.45 each   Total with shipping: Deutsch Post:    $71.40  18 days

When we "cut" 5cm x 5cm  worth $0.71 /4 we get quite nice ~$0.18 per the same small PCB, so ~3 times cheapper than cheap  :-DD

So, there is only a question how V-cut will affect this PCB price, while I can quite easy estimate laser cuts by makeing e-mail to this local company.

As we can see It could be nice to include V-cut costs in PCB cost estimations and optimization, but it still might be beat by simply laser cuts in some cases, I guess so it it never easy  ;)
Maybe you have other tricks than V-cut or laser cuts to make such quite small PCB's 1.25x5cm ?
(1.25cm+/-0.1 or 1.3cm+/-0.1 it does not matter).

Note: In the case of 5cm x 5 cm we of course need only 25 such PCBs to get 100 of required size, so we get $0.30/ PCB and we need bigger PCB to cut while there is less operations to put those things and prepare to laser cut, so we need optimize for PCB sizes as well  :-DMM
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Smart Prototyping China   5 × 5 cm        Green   25     Deutsch Post:   $30.15

Update: It looks like Smart Prototyping Mechanical Prototyping  http://smart-prototyping.com/Prototyping-Services/Mechanical-Prototyping/Laser-Cutting.html has some cutting services so maybe no another manufacturer needed, so never mind about this post.
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Send us your request to mechanic@smart-prototyping.com with
 1. a DXF file of your 2D model

It is interesting there is NOA Labs brand in this service:
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Brand: NOA Labs
Product Code: 100207
Reward Points: 10
Availability: 9999
Price: $10.00
And there is http://smart-prototyping.com/NOA-Labs everything one might need to bring his idea to reality including 3D printing, part sourcing, pcb assembling, even molding  :-+
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Re: Some China PCB manufacturer recommend
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2015, 03:28:53 am »
Good day, I currently work with GPSTLSHK and we represent PCB companies ( top 10) in Asia. Our current customers range from setup boxes to water/gas meters. You can contact me in case you need a quotation for boards.

Thanks,
Sergio
 

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Re: Some China PCB manufacturer recommend
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2015, 02:39:02 pm »
I have been using JacoHK (http://www.jacohk.com) and have been very happy with the result.

Here I show you some of my projects made by them:



 

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Re: Some China PCB manufacturer recommend
« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2016, 09:44:49 am »
Quite like Elecrow. Compared from SeedStudio, the silkscreen is much better (Mask instead of printed).
Shipping is also quite fast to UK, always had my PCB in 10 days.

PCB Example from Elecrow
 

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Re: Some China PCB manufacturer recommend
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2016, 09:49:27 am »
I can recomend Elecrow, good quality and very cheap in comparision with EU manufactors. 2 layer 10*8cm *10pcs costs with shiping about 20Eur. Drill holes were precise, and no problems with vias. I only recomend, went drawing silk screen, do not use thick letters, they don't have good resolution.
 

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Re: Some China PCB manufacturer recommend
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2016, 08:47:36 pm »
I've done five different boards through http://makerstudio.cc/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=8 and have been very happy with the results.  About $16 for 10 100mmx100mm boards shipped to the USA in about three weeks, a little cheaper if you do multiple batches on the same order (combined shipping).  They did run my first 1.2mm board batch at 1.6mm, but reran them for free without any hassle with a simple email to support.
 


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