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Are any of the SMD tweeters supported on the ADS200 base?
https://www.paceworldwide.com/products/handpieces/tweezers

Hi Dave,

Unfortunately, none of the older tweezer handpieces on that page are supported by the ADS200. However, the new MT-200 MiniTweez is being prepared for Beta Testing (sorry guys only 15 units are available and they've already been filled). They go out next week and, if all goes well, we'll go into production in October.

I will be sending you a sample MT-200 along with the MT-200 SetBack Tool Stand when we are sure the bugs are out of the beta models. I wouldn't enjoy watching a video of you tearing PACE a new a-hole because of some production issue that we didn't pick up!! :-DD

Take a look at the latest beta version in the attached image.

Aaron
 
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 soldering station. Production-grade quality for about $200
« Reply #1101 on: September 14, 2019, 08:28:31 am »
Didn't see this earlier, there is a video up as well.

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Video seems to have been marked private.

« Last Edit: September 27, 2019, 08:23:34 pm by Shock »
Soldering/Rework: Pace ADS200, Pace MBT350
Multimeters: Fluke 87V, 117, 27/FM
Oscilloscopes: Rigol DS1054Z, Phillips PM3065
 
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 soldering station. Production-grade quality for about $200
« Reply #1102 on: September 14, 2019, 06:17:32 pm »
Expected pricing for MT-200 tweezers?
 

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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 soldering station. Production-grade quality for about $200
« Reply #1103 on: September 14, 2019, 07:17:04 pm »
Hi Dave,
I wouldn't enjoy watching a video of you tearing PACE a new a-hole because of some production issue that we didn't pick up!! :-DD
With as many problems at the 121GW seems to still have after two years, I don't think you have a lot to worry about.   :-DD 

I like the idea of being able to lock the separation of the tips.    It seems like a nice feature.   

Are you going to offer a new handset with these same features for the older stations?
How electrically robust is your meter?? https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsK99WXk9VhcghnAauTBsbg
 

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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 soldering station. Production-grade quality for about $200
« Reply #1104 on: September 18, 2019, 07:26:59 pm »
Will we be able to pre-order the MT-200 tweezers when they go into production?
 

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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 soldering station. Production-grade quality for about $200
« Reply #1105 on: October 02, 2019, 04:34:20 am »
Is it normal for the tips to come pre-tinned? I just bought an ADS200 and the Chisel tip that I bought with it looks like it's been used while the Conical Sharp tip looks completely clean. Just wondering if that's standard (this is my first nice solder station, sorry for the newb question). Gallery below:

https://imgur.com/a/PNkFXtz

I bought it from Tequipment so I assume they know what they're doing although the packaging for the tips were a bit poor (the tips were just thrown into the larger box that the ADS200 box was placed in, causing both tips to bang around and come out of their plastic housings in shipping).
 
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 soldering station. Production-grade quality for about $200
« Reply #1106 on: October 02, 2019, 04:51:55 am »
Is it normal for the tips to come pre-tinned? I just bought an ADS200 and the Chisel tip that I bought with it looks like it's been used while the Conical Sharp tip looks completely clean. Just wondering if that's standard (this is my first nice solder station, sorry for the newb question). Gallery below:

https://imgur.com/a/PNkFXtz

I bought it from Tequipment so I assume they know what they're doing although the packaging for the tips were a bit poor (the tips were just thrown into the larger box that the ADS200 box was placed in, causing both tips to bang around and come out of their plastic housings in shipping).

I bought my station with several tips including the same large chisel tip. They appeared to be pre-tinned but very clean looking compared to your photos. I didn't particularly like my experience with Tequipment. Had to call back several times to have the discounts & shipping charges straightened out. They have a defensive attitude. 
 
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 soldering station. Production-grade quality for about $200
« Reply #1107 on: October 02, 2019, 07:55:34 am »
Is it normal for the tips to come pre-tinned? I just bought an ADS200 and the Chisel tip that I bought with it looks like it's been used while the Conical Sharp tip looks completely clean. Just wondering if that's standard (this is my first nice solder station, sorry for the newb question). Gallery below:

https://imgur.com/a/PNkFXtz
I think Aaron mentioned that they're testing each tip, so I suspect it's factory fresh. But I'm sure he'll chime in.
 
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 soldering station. Production-grade quality for about $200
« Reply #1108 on: October 02, 2019, 08:16:59 am »
Pace tin their tips (some are more obvious than others). That tip though appears to have been powered on for a bit (barrel has light patina which gets darker over time). It seems no fresh solder coat has been applied since it was manufactured. So unused but heated.

I would heat the tip to about 300C/600F and wipe it a few times in brass wool and then immediately apply fresh solder over the entire wettable half of the chisel. Then repeat this several times. If it takes solder and cleans up nice and shiny in brass wool then the tips working perfectly and you're good to go.

This is exactly the same process you should follow on a new tip anyway. Then leave some fresh solder on the tip when you aren't using it.
« Last Edit: October 02, 2019, 08:24:29 am by Shock »
Soldering/Rework: Pace ADS200, Pace MBT350
Multimeters: Fluke 87V, 117, 27/FM
Oscilloscopes: Rigol DS1054Z, Phillips PM3065
 
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 soldering station. Production-grade quality for about $200
« Reply #1109 on: October 02, 2019, 11:11:13 am »
Is it normal for the tips to come pre-tinned? I just bought an ADS200 and the Chisel tip that I bought with it looks like it's been used while the Conical Sharp tip looks completely clean. Just wondering if that's standard (this is my first nice solder station, sorry for the newb question). Gallery below:

https://imgur.com/a/PNkFXtz

I bought it from Tequipment so I assume they know what they're doing although the packaging for the tips were a bit poor (the tips were just thrown into the larger box that the ADS200 box was placed in, causing both tips to bang around and come out of their plastic housings in shipping).

Hi Maconi,

Shock is correct. All of PACE Tip-Heater Cartridges are coated with a pure tin coating as standard. Concerning the "used" look of the tip, most tips are quality tested in a fixture that briefly energizes the tip to ensure it is indeed working properly -- this test may discolor the heating element a bit, depending on the amount of time the tip is left in the fixture. The result is varying degrees of coloration depending on whether a particular tip has been tested or not, it's size (we test the larger Ultra-Performance Tips like the one in the image you posted more often) and the duration of it's time being energized during the final test. And I agree, they don't always look pristine ... we'll try to work on that. But the tip performance itself is not in any way degraded.

Concerning the packaging, this is a common complaint about the packaging methods used by Tequipment, one of our authorized distributors. And it will be a point of discussion today when I meet with the Corporate Sales Manager, who is the prime interface with Tequipment.

Thanks for the comments,

Aaron
 
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 soldering station. Production-grade quality for about $200
« Reply #1110 on: October 02, 2019, 05:48:06 pm »
Is it normal for the tips to come pre-tinned? I just bought an ADS200 and the Chisel tip that I bought with it looks like it's been used while the Conical Sharp tip looks completely clean. Just wondering if that's standard (this is my first nice solder station, sorry for the newb question). Gallery below:

https://imgur.com/a/PNkFXtz

I bought it from Tequipment so I assume they know what they're doing although the packaging for the tips were a bit poor (the tips were just thrown into the larger box that the ADS200 box was placed in, causing both tips to bang around and come out of their plastic housings in shipping).

Hi Maconi,

Shock is correct. All of PACE Tip-Heater Cartridges are coated with a pure tin coating as standard. Concerning the "used" look of the tip, most tips are quality tested in a fixture that briefly energizes the tip to ensure it is indeed working properly -- this test may discolor the heating element a bit, depending on the amount of time the tip is left in the fixture. The result is varying degrees of coloration depending on whether a particular tip has been tested or not, it's size (we test the larger Ultra-Performance Tips like the one in the image you posted more often) and the duration of it's time being energized during the final test. And I agree, they don't always look pristine ... we'll try to work on that. But the tip performance itself is not in any way degraded.

Concerning the packaging, this is a common complaint about the packaging methods used by Tequipment, one of our authorized distributors. And it will be a point of discussion today when I meet with the Corporate Sales Manager, who is the prime interface with Tequipment.

Thanks for the comments,

Aaron

I noticed the same thing on a couple of large chisel tips I just received.  I figured it was due to testing as well as that is what I heard.

Ok, Aaron, I just received my second ADS200 and am waiting for those tweezers.  Just giving you a hard time.
 
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 soldering station. Production-grade quality for about $200
« Reply #1111 on: October 02, 2019, 05:58:58 pm »
I had waited for all the bugs to be ironed out of the ADS200 before I bought one. I originally spoke to Patrick at Tequipment, who I think was their Pace guy. Very knowledgeable. Was a pleasure to talk with. They said he was not available with when I called with a couple of questions before ordering. Not sure if he changed positions or left the company.
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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 soldering station. Production-grade quality for about $200
« Reply #1112 on: October 02, 2019, 07:48:25 pm »
I had waited for all the bugs to be ironed out of the ADS200 before I bought one. I originally spoke to Patrick at Tequipment, who I think was their Pace guy. Very knowledgeable. Was a pleasure to talk with. They said he was not available with when I called with a couple of questions before I ordering. Not sure if he changed positions or left the company.

Patrick Mullaney is one of the Managers at Tequipment and I think he manages the PACE product line, among others. I'm pretty sure he's still there. I'm surprised you were able to talk to him since Tequipment usually assigns one of their Inside Sales reps to speak to customers. They have a team of people to just answer questions and help with orders. But Patrick would definitely know more about the PACE line than the Inside Sales team.

Aaron
 

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Re: Newest Pace ADS200 soldering station. Production-grade quality for about $200
« Reply #1113 on: October 03, 2019, 04:14:12 am »
Is it normal for the tips to come pre-tinned? I just bought an ADS200 and the Chisel tip that I bought with it looks like it's been used while the Conical Sharp tip looks completely clean. Just wondering if that's standard (this is my first nice solder station, sorry for the newb question). Gallery below:

https://imgur.com/a/PNkFXtz

I bought it from Tequipment so I assume they know what they're doing although the packaging for the tips were a bit poor (the tips were just thrown into the larger box that the ADS200 box was placed in, causing both tips to bang around and come out of their plastic housings in shipping).

Thanks for the replies all. I wasn't too worried about it but figured posting wouldn't hurt. It's a huge upgrade over what I've used my whole life (cheap, direct-to-wall irons) so I'm looking forward to playing with it soon.  ;D
 


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