My Advanced Realistic Humanoid Robots Project

[joeqsmith]

Thanks for the post eblaster.  This allowed me to add this thread to the ignore list.   I checked my profile and it now shows up there.  However the recent list still shows eblaster's post.   Maybe it takes effect after the ignore was added but as it stands, it had no effect. 

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Just checked and even this post still showed up on the recent list.   There must be more to this ignore topic puzzle.

[ebastler]

Thanks for the post eblaster.  This allowed me to add this thread to the ignore list.   I checked my profile and it now shows up there.  However the recent list still shows eblaster's post.   Maybe it takes effect after the ignore was added but as it stands, it had no effect.

Here's another test...    The thread should not show up in the lists shown via the "Show unread posts since last visit" and "Show new replies to your posts" links, at the top of the forum's home screen. But posts will still show up in the "Recent Posts" list, at the bottom of the home screen. That's unavoidable, it seems.

[joeqsmith]

Thanks for the post eblaster.  This allowed me to add this thread to the ignore list.   I checked my profile and it now shows up there.  However the recent list still shows eblaster's post.   Maybe it takes effect after the ignore was added but as it stands, it had no effect.

Here's another test...    The thread should not show up in the lists shown via the "Show unread posts since last visit" and "Show new replies to your posts" links, at the top of the forum's home screen. But posts will still show up in the "Recent Posts" list, at the bottom of the home screen. That's unavoidable, it seems.

This appears correct.   I assumed from the following comment in the profiles section, it would remove these topics from the recent posts area which was really what I was after.

Ignore Topics Options
You can ignore particular topics so that they will not appear in Unread/UnreadReplies nor the recent.

I can quite happily try to ignore this thread. The thing that's p*ssing me off is that it's it keeps wiping out so much of the 'Recent Posts' section!

This...

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Beyond the bit of entertainment this thread provides, it's given me the nudge I need to learn something about Dave's site.  Something useful actually came from it.   

[ebastler]

Unfortunately the "Ignore topic" feature does not work quite as advertised.

There is an Ignore Topics feature.

But, in contrast to what's stated in the screenshot you shared, ignoring a topic will only remove it from the "Unread posts since your last visit" and "New replies to your posts" lists. Posts will still show up in the "Recent posts" list (bottom of the forum's main page). Personally I don't mind that since I don't use that list, but I think it is what Gyro was referring to.

My recommendation to registered and logged-in users would be to ignore the Recent Posts list entirely and refer to the "Unread topics since your last visit" instead. I find that one more useful snice it excludes the posts I have already looked at, or chosen to not look at the last time I checked in. To my mind, the generic Recent Posts list is mainly useful for unregistered users who cannot get a more tailored list of posts.

[coromonadalix]

discutions on the :  Re_ Can we be done with the _My Advanced Realistic Humanoid Robot_ guy already_

dont seems to get somewhere too

Dave is asking  what is offending  or this or that ... i do understand his point and his questions, but at some point  if many forum members react in a way ...

I'm not Dave,  but both would have been locked out way early

now   some 30 - 40 pages later, it is far beyond ridiculous, it is a joke, and to me    eevblog credibility take some beating

my personal view and comments

[ebastler]

discutions on the :  Re_ Can we be done with the _My Advanced Realistic Humanoid Robot_ guy already_

dont seems to get somewhere too

Dave is asking  what is offending  or this or that ... i do understand his point and his questions, but at some point  if many forum members react in a way ...

I'm not Dave,  but both would have been locked out way early

now   some 30 - 40 pages later, it is far beyond ridiculous, it is a joke, and to me    eevblog credibility take some beating

my personal view and comments

Most forum members seem to apply one or more of the following approaches:

• Try to get some common sense and some knowledge across to the OP -- with limited success.
• Take a piss out of the OP.
• Ignore the thread, either using the forum's "ignore topic" feature or sheer willpower.

That seems to work for most of us.

[KerimF]

To me in the least, I see this thread now much like a daily TV series whose actors don't have to follow a certain written scenario. It is simply a series of surprises... thanks to OP.

[SteveThackery]

now   some 30 - 40 pages later, it is far beyond ridiculous, it is a joke, and to me    eevblog credibility take some beating

I feel much the same way, although it wouldn't have got close to 40 pages if we spectators hadn't kept posting.  I can't leave the damn thread alone: I've never read such extraordinary claims by someone who is so obviously incompetent. The hubris and Dunning-Kruger are so far off the scale they boggle the mind.  The OP's ability to delude himself, his profound lack of self-knowledge, and the infinite gulf between his actual abilities and his opinion of his abilities make the whole thread completely surreal.  It is basically a freakshow with @artbyrobot as the subject and the rest of us as the jeering audience.

I think we nearly all agree on this, but the truly extraordinary nature of the exchanges draws us in, and we cannot resist watching the show because we've never seen anything like it before. 

To be honest it is a big waste of server space because there is not one jot of value anywhere in the whole thread. On the other hand, no harm is being done and no rules broken, so as long as Dave is happy to host this freakshow we can choose to keep watching, goad the guy for a laugh, or walk away.

[KerimF]

To be honest it is a big waste of server space because there is not one jot of value anywhere in the whole thread.

There is one value, see [2] below.
[1] Humans try their best to avoid feeling sadness and/or having pain because in such cases their time goes slowly.
[2] On the other hand, humans try their best to fill their time by living pleasant adventures whenever possible. In such adventures (like of this thread), time passes fast 

[xrunner]

I'm not Dave,  but both would have been locked out way early

now   some 30 - 40 pages later, it is far beyond ridiculous, it is a joke, and to me    eevblog credibility take some beating

my personal view and comments

I don't see it that way at all. EEVBlog is not taking a beating, but rather is demonstrating how critical thinking is applied to projects posted here in the public domain. If the project in question was designed and well thought-out the maker would not be getting so much criticism. The fact that we take time to respond with helpful insights and opinions demonstrates out willingness to help others. That is a good thing for EEVBlog's reputation.

[Analog Kid]

I designed this power supply like 5 days into learning what voltage and amps are.  So at this time I did not know that some mosfets are non-logic level mosfets.  I assumed they are all logic level mosfets (and frankly, they all should be logic level mosfets and manufacturers are idiots to make them non-logic level IMO.  It's just lazy.  Slap whatever you need inside there to make it logic level and pour the black stuff over all that so it just works.  DUH!  Obvious.

Ah; so Kim Il Artrobot has decreed that all MOSFETs shall be logic-level (V_gs=xV):

By decree of Chairman Kim Il Artrobot, Supreme Commander and head of the People's Semiconductor Specifications Committee, henceforth all MOSFETs used in the Realm shall only be of the logic-level type. All stocks of all other types are to be destroyed immediately. This decree takes effect on 12/12/24.

That is all,
/s/ Kim Il Artrobot, Supreme Commander, Exemplar PhD-Level Designer of Robotics and Electronics, and overall Great Guy

Now can we compile a list of all the MOSFET applications that will now be impossible to implement due to this decree? Anyone?

Oh, and watch out: P-channel MOSFETs are next ...

[Tation]

I'm using Chrome.
You have to go to the "Show new replies" or "Show Unread Posts" page and you will see the Ignore Topic button top right. Check the box for the topic you want to ignore and hit the button and it adds it to your list.

Sorry, but if "Show new replies" means "Show new replies to your posts." and "Show Unread Posts" is "Show unread posts since last visit.", I cannot see such tick boxes nor "ignore topics" button. What have I missed?

Thanks & regards.

[ebastler]

What have I missed?

This post, a bit earlier in this thread:

You have to go to the "Show new replies" or "Show Unread Posts" page and you will see the Ignore Topic button top right. Check the box for the topic you want to ignore and hit the button and it adds it to your list.

Except people mostly won't even see those, because I think the option to show them still defaults off and is well hidden.

You have to go to Profile > Account Settings > Modify Profile > Look and Layout, and then set the option Show quick-moderation as checkboxes before you'll have the ability to do that.

[joeqsmith]

I'm not Dave,  but both would have been locked out way early

now   some 30 - 40 pages later, it is far beyond ridiculous, it is a joke, and to me    eevblog credibility take some beating

my personal view and comments

I don't see it that way at all. EEVBlog is not taking a beating, but rather is demonstrating how critical thinking is applied to projects posted here in the public domain. If the project in question was designed and well thought-out the maker would not be getting so much criticism. The fact that we take time to respond with helpful insights and opinions demonstrates out willingness to help others. That is a good thing for EEVBlog's reputation.

Hard to say what drives Daves and mods.  I've been involved with other threads where OP used a single thread that they created and were still banned. How many times have we seen it with free energy nuts.   Some topics are more related to electronics than this one.    Here is one for example on oscillators:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/my-own-original-oscillator/

I think if enough wolves join the pack, they will ban the offender.  What's funny is you have people who join, throw up a wall of their own BS, then bitch about everyone else feeding the trolls.   It's all quite comical and entertaining in some demented way.

[artbyrobot]

 "If it's multiple unconnected sections, then it's multiple designs"

well multiple unconnected sections can be the same design as I explained.  But I guess they are just blindfold on robotic behaving ignoring the customer then even when the customer explains how it is only 1 design.  That said, could I just throw in a connection trace to fake connect all the "multiple designs" together and then later cut out this fake trace from every unconnected section so it becomes unconnected again?  Obviously, this would be unethical if it was genuinely different designs, but since it's literally 1 design, this would possibly get past their refusal to listen.  Would this work do you think?

[Kim Christensen]

JLCPCB is still pretty cheap if you simply make 5 separate orders, use the cheap shipping option, and keep the PCBs under 100mm x 100mm.
Do that rather than trying to combine what they consider "5 designs" into a single shipment.

[ebastler]

 "If it's multiple unconnected sections, then it's multiple designs"

well multiple unconnected sections can be the same design as I explained.  But I guess they are just blindfold on robotic behaving ignoring the customer then even when the customer explains how it is only 1 design. 

You omitted the part of my quote where I said that this is JLCPCB's definition of what constitutes "multiple designs". And they do get to define the word, as far as its use in their terms and conditions is concerned. Don't like their rules, take your business elsewhere. 

That said, could I just throw in a connection trace to fake connect all the "multiple designs" together and then later cut out this fake trace from every unconnected section so it becomes unconnected again?  Obviously, this would be unethical if it was genuinely different designs, but since it's literally 1 design, this would possibly get past their refusal to listen.  Would this work do you think?

You might get away with it. Or maybe not. Or maybe just once and they will charge you extra next time.

But the other parts of my post were actually more relevant. You should reconsider the idea of using flexible PCB and consider rigid FR4. And no matter where you take your PCB business and what material you use, you should learn how to use a PCB CAD program.

[artbyrobot]

JLCPCB is still pretty cheap if you simply make 5 separate orders, use the cheap shipping option, and keep the PCBs under 100mm x 100mm.
Do that rather than trying to combine what they consider "5 designs" into a single shipment.

over $300 is not cheap for my minimum order 100x100mm pcba pyralux with barely any smd parts on it.  ANd it has to be 100x100mm x5 for no reason btw.

[artbyrobot]

take your business elsewhere. 

I literally asked for company options that don't pull this crap.  Nobody gave any.

[artbyrobot]

consider rigid FR4. And no matter where you take your PCB business and what material you use, you should learn how to use a PCB CAD program.

most of my stuff I want the flex.  So may as well go all flex then.  Your flex hate is ridiculous.  Also I had to use pcb cad program to submit my order and get the 5 designs robotic stupid rule thrown at me when I then canceled the order and threw up my hands.  So much for outsourcing a bit. 

[Kim Christensen]

and get the 5 designs robotic stupid rule thrown at me

Then why are you making a robot?
It'll just make you angry! 

[over $300 is not cheap for my minimum order 100x100mm pcba pyralux with barely any smd parts on it.  ANd it has to be 100x100mm x5 for no reason btw.

It must have a ton of errors and bad choices in it. Submit a proper design and you'll see a more reasonable price.

[artbyrobot]

Side note:  they reached out to me to sponsor me on the electronics of my robot.  So after my poor experience before with the 5 designs price gouging when I only had 1 design in reality with unconnected parts intended to be used as layers of the 1 design, I am conflicted.  the sponsorship would be decent money to promote them with my elite skills and world class project.  Our collaboration would also give me legitimacy in the eyes of haters who would all immediately become fans.  But that overpricing and failure to listen to my pleas left a bad taste in my mouth.  $300?  seriously!?

Also, another issue I had is my favorite youtube channels like great scott and electronoobs always promote them and so they never make any pcbs themselves which I always found annoying.  As a diyer on a budget, I preferred to learn more about making my own pcbs from these guys but they never do it.  Mr Carlsons lab does it in some videos at least.  So that was nice.  I feel like every electronics yotuube channel fails to make pcbs because they all partner with jlcpcb immediately and basically get free pcbs due to their partnership.  So they never bother to do them after that.  Takes away the diy vibe and homemade feel of their projects which is annoying to me.  So maybe if I didn't like how they went this route as a viewer, I should just not do it myself as a fellow creator. 

Heck, I have almost never seen people make pyralux pcbs.  I'd be promoting diy pyralux which could do the electronics community some good since its better than fr4.  So much more versatile and awesome in every way.  So I'm leaning this way right now.  To just do it myself.  I already bought everything for it too.

[artbyrobot]

and get the 5 designs robotic stupid rule thrown at me

Then why are you making a robot?
It'll just make you angry! 

[over $300 is not cheap for my minimum order 100x100mm pcba pyralux with barely any smd parts on it.  ANd it has to be 100x100mm x5 for no reason btw.

It must have a ton of errors and bad choices in it. Submit a proper design and you'll see a more reasonable price.

my robot won't fail to listen to customers.  When I say a robotic response I mean a customer support that blindly follows the letter of the law and fails to consider the customer's point of view and be accommodating.  A robot should be programmed NOT to act that way.  But robots made by crappy roboticists do often act that way hence the sayings like the one I used here.  If other roboticists were excellent ones like me we wouldn't have these sayings.

[Kim Christensen]

I mean a customer support that blindly follows the letter of the law and fails to consider the customer's point of view and be accommodating.  A robot should be programmed NOT to act that way.

But your robot WILL be programmed that way.

[ebastler]

most of my stuff I want the flex.  So may as well go all flex then.  Your flex hate is ridiculous.

I have used flex PCBs where necessary -- e.g. for a heater that wraps around a cylindric chamber and carries optical sensors at the same time. I have also explained to you their stability limitations, and have pointed out that thin rigid PCB is available as an alternative.

You, in contrast, have not explained at all why you think you need flex PCBs. I think it goes largely back to preconceptions which you developed earlier, with you concepts involving sticky tape or whatever.

Anyway, I tried to be constructive on this topic, but realize once again that that is not how you play the game. So I'll go back to watching the show. I won't bother answering to your other points.