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bingo600:
Cheap Chinese TZT-TS01 NTP Server


A while ago i bought a Chinese TS01 NTP server, as a low power "Backup NTP Server".

I decided on this one.
TZT TS01 Network Time Server NTP Server for Beidou GPS GLONASS
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005363401802.html


It's NOT TimeNuts material, and won't really recommend it, unless you can live with the shortcommings.


Pros:
Small
Cheap
Low Power
GPS receiver is sensitive.

Cons:
It has a permanet offset around 130..140ms, from the other Stratum-1 NTP servers i use.
No DHCP , static ip only.
No Webinterface for configuring.
Windows Configre APP is in Chinese ONLY, so be prepared to play "Guess a setting/function".
The display shows the received time, but uses Beijung TZ - And i'm quite sure there's no way to change that.
Changing the ip address to one that fits my setup, was quite a challenge. Mostly due to it being in chinese.


Worst:
You need to register the configure progrem key on an Internet server somewhere, before the program will connect to the NTP Box.
When you start the Configure program, it will show you a "register key seed", my guts tell me that seed ia generated from ie. "the pc's netcard mac address".
Then you have to go to the register server, and key in the "seed key", and you'll be shown the "activation key".
If that server disapears, you have no possibility to reregister on a new pc, and the box is useless.


It has been running for a month or so, wo. any issues besides the above.
But today i noticed that it had a "Reach of 0 , and a When of 92h", display shows normal , and LAN (traffic) is blinking.
I did  power off, and a NTP restart - Now it's alive again.


NTP:

My box is the kv-ntp....


--- Code: ---ntpq -p
     remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
==============================================================================
-n1.taur.dk      .PPS0.           1 u   46  128  377    6.738    0.180   0.354
-kv-ntp-01.luna- .GPS.            1 u   88  128  377    3.340  -167.05   1.919
+time.dfm.dk     .DFM.            1 u  125  128  377    2.923   -0.027   0.203
*mmo2.ntp.netnod .PPS.            1 u   49  128  377    2.405   -0.085   0.448
+80.209.68.118.s .GPS.            1 u  134  128  377    4.223    0.026   0.136
-time.cloudflare 10.8.8.4         3 u  122  128  377   10.426   -0.453   0.247
-orange.inet.dk. 125.199.53.76    2 u    6  128  377    5.093   -0.104   0.104


--- End code ---

Peerstats:
My box is 10.xx.yy.zz


--- Code: ---awk -f peer.awk peerstats.20230601
       ident     cnt     mean     rms      max     delay     dist     disp
==========================================================================
192.36.143.130    57    0.161    0.271    0.837   10.310   24.938   16.366
194.58.204.148    56    0.049    0.181    0.712    2.091   20.658   16.621
10.xx.yy.zz       51  138.099    0.732    1.614    4.153   22.769   16.232
217.198.219.102   57    0.145    0.258    0.728    6.861   23.125   16.294
87.116.22.151     58   -0.032    0.167    0.610    2.871   21.130   16.477


--- End code ---




If you are on a "tight budget" , and you can live with a 130+ ms offset , plus chinese app & risky registering.
Then it could be acceptable .... But i see others wo. the display, hat has a web config interface in english , and even seems to be cheaper.

/Bingo

ddrown:
Thanks for exploring this product, this topic is interesting to me.

This sounds like the micro is using the timestamp of the serial/NMEA data from the gps rather than the PPS. That would explain the high offset and jitter.

That problem and the management software issues would make it not worth it to me.

darkain:
bingo600, where did you get the configuration software from? I've done plenty of searching online, and have yet to find it anywhere. I know that it is super sketch, but I'd still like to try it out since I'm in the process of reviewing this and other budget NTP server units for the homelab community. Having the device stuck on the default IP address is a real show-stopper for me at the moment.

bingo600:
I recommend that you don't buy this device.

The product is "sub par" .... Mine ended in a drawer :--
The "disk" download page (for mgmt. program - 127MB rar file) i used is gone  :--

And the registering system, while still up - Is in chinese only , and who knows when that webpage is gone ....

All in All - DON'T BUY

Ohh the mgmt program is in chinese only too .. And absolutely not obvious for someone not reading the language.  :palm:

5U4GB:
Thanks for that!  The ones I've looked at are the cheaper model without the display, e.g. this one, which claims a WebUI interface and an accuracy of 0.5-2ms over a LAN.  Here's a screenshot of the web UI which is in English and shows DHCP capability (that is, it shows the current setting as static IP but it can be set to DHCP as well as per this review).  Has anyone played with one of these?

(Forestalling the inevitable comments, the linked review mentions that the settings are lost on power loss, but that's with much older firmware which has supposedly been fixed).

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