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I always wondered how exactly the ratio mode works on meters like the 3458A and other HP meters. Even the 34401A has such a mode.
What is the range of the ratio input? I read it is limited to 12V, does that mean it is fixed to a 10V range? Or does it change the range automatically as soon as I connect only 500mV or 50mV?
What about the specifications of that range? Is it similar to the standard ranges? I asked, because I would like to calculate the uncertainty of such a ratio.
And is the transfer specification of the 3458A also valid for such a ratio measurement?
If that would be true, than I could simply connect my 732 to the ratio input and whatever I would like to measure to the standard input. No need for unplugging cables and so on.
Cheers
Rainer
Hello Rainer,
the 3458A is the mother of all later DMMs, like the 34401, 410A/411A and 46xA/470A.
That means, that the Ratio function works always in a practically identical manner.
Your questions are all covered in the different manuals, also the Ratio specification, but anyhow I'll try to make these descriptions more transparent to you.
The Sense jacks act as the reference signal.
This is always autoranging DCV, i.e. 100mV, 1V or 10V, max input +/- 12V
dcThe Input jacks might be Autorange, or Manual, from 100mV to 1000V
dc on all DMMs.
Only the 3458A allows to also measure ACV signals in relation to the reference DCV signal, but that's a special case, which should not be discussed here.
The potential between Sense GND and Input GND jacks must be less than 250mV, that means that you somewhere have to tie both signal grounds together.
If you forget that, the ratio measurement will not work.
Also pay attention, if both your sources do not have independent ground signals, e.g. when they are both powered from the same supply.
In this case an additional connection between both ground pins might create a loop, or other problems.
The Ratio mode (two DCV signals) makes four consecutive measurements, i.e. it measures the voltages at Sense+, Sense-, Input+ and Input-, and then purely mathematically calculates the Ratio:
Ratio = (I
+ - I
-) / (S
+ - S
-)
From this formula it's evident, that the DMM does not need to do an additional internal Auto Zero cycle, and that it takes the same time as making 2 separate DCV measurements with Autozero.
Ratio has its own specification, which is worse than the transfer specifications, i.e. its:
± (Input error + Reference Error)
Input error = 1 x Total Error for input signal measurement function (DCV, ACV, ACDCV)
Reference error = 1.5 x Total error for the range of the reference DC inputThat means in first instance that you would have to use the appropriate 24hr, 90day or 1year specifications.
If you'd do an ACAL before the RATIO measurement, you can at least use the 24hr specifications.
But I strongly assume, that in this case you could instead use the DCV transfer specification, for your case of fixed 10V ranges that would be 2x (0.05 ppm of range + 0.05ppm of reading).
There was a good white paper from KS dealing with these different transfer techniques, and how to optimize this ratio measurement .. I will look for it and link it down below.
I could have referred directly to this document, I think, as it's much better explained there
Frank