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Electronics => Microcontrollers => Topic started by: xrunner on September 10, 2013, 01:46:53 am

Title: Adafruit Trinket - an ATtiny85 microcontroller board
Post by: xrunner on September 10, 2013, 01:46:53 am
Seems to be a new offering by them, in 3V and 5V versions  -

http://learn.adafruit.com/introducing-trinket/introduction (http://learn.adafruit.com/introducing-trinket/introduction)

(http://learn.adafruit.com/system/assets/assets/000/010/746/medium800/adafruit_products_trinket_clear_products_1500_ORIG.jpg?1378147252)
Title: Re: Adafruit Trinket - an ATtiny85 microcontroller board
Post by: dannyf on September 10, 2013, 10:59:13 am
Given that you have only a few pins, making a board for it doesn't seem to be that efficient.

Programming the naked chip may be a better way to go.
Title: Re: Adafruit Trinket - an ATtiny85 microcontroller board
Post by: andersm on September 10, 2013, 04:17:38 pm
$8 is pretty much for something intended to be a throwaway/jellybean part.
Title: Re: Adafruit Trinket - an ATtiny85 microcontroller board
Post by: JTR on September 10, 2013, 05:45:52 pm
Not sure how long people would bother with the old V-USB LOW SPEED AVR platform when today you can get native FULL SPEED USB support in a 14-pin PIC that is cheaper too and only requires two caps. Even the existing PC side code can be reused with little or no change.
Title: Re: Adafruit Trinket - an ATtiny85 microcontroller board
Post by: dannyf on September 11, 2013, 01:59:34 am
I have a few minimus: at90usb162, with more pin out, native usb, etc. for $7/each.
Title: Re: Adafruit Trinket - an ATtiny85 microcontroller board
Post by: westfw on September 11, 2013, 06:59:34 am
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I have a few minimus: at90usb162, with more pin out, native usb, etc. for $7/each.
Cute.  Are those still around?  I can only find the "minimus 32", and only from UK-based stores...
Title: Re: Adafruit Trinket - an ATtiny85 microcontroller board
Post by: dannyf on September 11, 2013, 10:58:40 am
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Are those still around?

I am not sure. I got mine years ago.
Title: Re: Adafruit Trinket - an ATtiny85 microcontroller board
Post by: Stonent on September 13, 2013, 06:23:03 am
How about just a Tiny 2313 soldered directly to an LED Matrix?

http://hackaday.com/2012/10/12/led-matrix-pendants/ (http://hackaday.com/2012/10/12/led-matrix-pendants/)

Tiny Matrix rev 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UxMrfjSPHA#)
Title: Re: Adafruit Trinket - an ATtiny85 microcontroller board
Post by: amyk on September 13, 2013, 11:33:35 am
$8 is pretty much for something intended to be a throwaway/jellybean part.
I don't get that impression here, $8 is rather expensive for a PCB that has not much on it.

But then again almost everything Adafruit sells is amazingly overpriced...
Title: Re: Adafruit Trinket - an ATtiny85 microcontroller board
Post by: Stonent on September 13, 2013, 11:56:25 am
Well, they do contribute a lot of documentation and stuff so in a way, you're paying to keep that going.
Title: Re: Adafruit Trinket - an ATtiny85 microcontroller board
Post by: andersm on September 13, 2013, 06:25:59 pm
$8 is pretty much for something intended to be a throwaway/jellybean part.
I don't get that impression here, $8 is rather expensive for a PCB that has not much on it.
That's what I meant, the phrasing just got mangled.
Title: Re: Adafruit Trinket - an ATtiny85 microcontroller board
Post by: MatCat on September 13, 2013, 06:29:25 pm
Personally I would just go on digikey and spend the $1.18 for an attiny85 and use it direct, but there are those that find a pre-made board useful, to each their own :). 
Title: Re: Adafruit Trinket - an ATtiny85 microcontroller board
Post by: Stonent on September 14, 2013, 01:39:41 am
You can do this also:

How-To: Shrinkify Your Arduino Projects (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30rPt802n1k#ws)
Title: Re: Adafruit Trinket - an ATtiny85 microcontroller board
Post by: dannyf on September 14, 2013, 11:26:07 am
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$8 is rather expensive for a PCB that has not much on it.

Yes. And there should definitely be a substantial discount to compensate for the pain of using the arduino ide, :)
Title: Re: Adafruit Trinket - an ATtiny85 microcontroller board
Post by: Stonent on September 14, 2013, 08:36:53 pm
Nothing stopping anyone from using Atmel studio.
Title: Re: Adafruit Trinket - an ATtiny85 microcontroller board
Post by: dannyf on September 15, 2013, 12:48:10 am
Check out the new STM32F429 Discovery.
Title: Re: Adafruit Trinket - an ATtiny85 microcontroller board
Post by: Stonent on September 15, 2013, 07:54:46 pm
They also announced a board called the Gemma which is basically a small Flora board based on the Tiny85.
Title: Adafruit Trinket - an ATtiny85 microcontroller board
Post by: lgbeno on September 15, 2013, 08:04:10 pm
This thing is just a ripoff of the digispark that I bought on Kickstarter last year!

I didn't think Adafruit would do something like that...
Title: Re: Adafruit Trinket - an ATtiny85 microcontroller board
Post by: Stonent on September 15, 2013, 08:12:56 pm
I'd hardly call it a ripoff. Adafruit appears to just have taken an existing product that they have and shrunk it to an ATtiny85.

And even if they did, the Digispark has the Open Hardware logo on it anyone can rip it off.
Title: Re: Adafruit Trinket - an ATtiny85 microcontroller board
Post by: MatCat on September 16, 2013, 05:08:34 pm
Hard to call it ripping it off when it's only an attiny85, some bypass caps, and a USB connector ;)
Title: Adafruit Trinket - an ATtiny85 microcontroller board
Post by: lgbeno on September 18, 2013, 01:50:16 am
I guess "rip off" was a little extreme...

Reminds me of the Digispark that I bought on Kickstarter...
Title: Re: Adafruit Trinket - an ATtiny85 microcontroller board
Post by: amyk on September 18, 2013, 10:48:47 am
The only one being ripped off is the customer... ::)
Title: Re: Adafruit Trinket - an ATtiny85 microcontroller board
Post by: dannyf on September 19, 2013, 11:27:28 am
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The only one being ripped off is the customer

Absolutely. With $7.99, you could have gotten LM4F120XL from TI; or buy a few of the bare chips ($1/each?).

$7.95 for a 8pdip chip is a lot of money.