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Ti is offering CCS 6
TMDSCCS-ALLN01D-Code Composer Studio IDE - Node Locked Single User (N01D) - Download Only / NO DVDs
(a 445 $ value)
for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad board.

https://store.ti.com/MSP430G2-LaunchPad-Development-Kit-With-Code-Composer-Studio-Promotion-P50861.aspx

From what I understand the further updates are free of charge as well.
http://www.ti.com/tool/CCSSUB

It is quite  a tempting offer and I ordered one to have this full functional CCS.
« Last Edit: September 04, 2016, 03:01:30 pm by JacquesBBB »
 
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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2016, 02:52:03 pm »
Order placed.
 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2016, 03:03:51 pm »
How is that different than the CCS I was able to download after previous launch pad purchases?  I've only played with it a bit but it appears to be the full version.

What does "node locked" mean?
 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2016, 03:08:43 pm »
Ditched long time ago the MSP family and CCS which suck after I discovered the Cypress PSOC family (more versatile) , and specially the free PSOC creator, a much better working environment. Documentation for the PSOC is amazing btw.

And some of the eval boards share the pinouts to be compatible with arduino extensions
 
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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2016, 03:13:11 pm »
How is that different than the CCS I was able to download after previous launch pad purchases?  I've only played with it a bit but it appears to be the full version.

What does "node locked" mean?

Node locked means you can only install it on one computer, it locks with MAC address or C: drive volume number.
Usually they can grant you new licenses upon request in case of new system installation or computer upgrading, but you can only install one copy at a time.
Floating license allows you to install multiple copies on multiple computers, with only one used at a time. License file is dynamically allocated by licensing server, rather than locked to your computer.
 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2016, 03:15:14 pm »
How is that different than the CCS I was able to download after previous launch pad purchases?  I've only played with it a bit but it appears to be the full version.

I believe the difference is in the use of the Ti compiler

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Use CCS for free - By default when you install Code Composer Studio a free license will be enabled that supports working with development boards with an onboard debug interface, XDS1xx class debug probes, MSP430 with 16KB code size limit when using the TI compiler and 32KB code size limit with MSP432 and no limit when using GCC. A 90-day evaluation license is also available.

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What does "node locked" mean?

From what I understand, limited to the use on one single computer.
 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2016, 03:16:06 pm »
Ditched long time ago the MSP family and CCS which suck after I discovered the Cypress PSOC family (more versatile) , and specially the free PSOC creator, a much better working environment. Documentation for the PSOC is amazing btw.

And some of the eval boards share the pinouts to be compatible with arduino extensions

I did the same thing. Having been using MSP430 for a long while, but eventually I decided to move to PSoC just because PSoC is just so powerful for the price.
However, I can see that PSoC although having lower one off price, their high volume price is considerably higher than MSP430.
Also, I want to have a copy of CCS because I want to start playing with C2000 controllers as I am moving into higher end power electronics.
 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2016, 04:55:16 pm »
How is that different than the CCS I was able to download after previous launch pad purchases?  I've only played with it a bit but it appears to be the full version.

What does "node locked" mean?

The compilers in the free version are code size limited.

Node locked means you can pick I believe two MAC addresses for the license to be valid for.
 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2016, 05:46:09 pm »
How is that different than the CCS I was able to download after previous launch pad purchases?  I've only played with it a bit but it appears to be the full version.

What does "node locked" mean?

The compilers in the free version are code size limited.[/qoute]

I'm fairly cetain there is no code size limit on the CCS version I have - which uses GCC. That is what their website says.

Until now,  I had not realized there was a seperate TI compiler available which is code size limited. I'm an embedded C newbie - what advantage would there be to using the TI compiler? Speed?
 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2016, 05:48:33 pm »
How is that different than the CCS I was able to download after previous launch pad purchases?  I've only played with it a bit but it appears to be the full version.

What does "node locked" mean?

The compilers in the free version are code size limited.[/qoute]

I'm fairly cetain there is no code size limit on the CCS version I have - which uses GCC. That is what their website says.

If you use the non-default GCC compiler, yes, there's no code size limit. This is good, seeing as it doesn't optimise nearly as well.

The TI MSP430 compiler is substantially better than GCC. And then there's all the compilers you get for other MCUs, such as their C2000 range.
 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2016, 06:03:10 pm »
Actually I was wrong, I had thought it was using GCC but it appears to be using TI compilers.  It is not code size limited as far as I can tell.

 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2016, 08:32:34 pm »
Thanks, ordered.

I was wondering if I'd be able get the free upgrade from the semi-full version of CCS4 to CCS6 based on their "and upgrades are now free" policy but I guess I don't have to worry about that so much now.

But, yes, for general hobbyist purposes there's often fairly little difference between the "always free" version of CCS and the promo one here, particularly if you're using an XDS100 or XDS110 interface to program / debug your board since the free XDS1xx series license lets you do most everything in terms of debug & programming as well as compiling for supported ICs which are fairly numerous.

I guess now that there are MSP430s with bigger flash sizes more commonly available I suppose it's more possible to run into code size limits on that platform but then I've not had that problem and have turned to other ICs like PSOC 5, TI Stellaris / TIVA / MSP432, STM32Fx, et. al. for larger FLASH & RAM & higher performance options.

There are a few models of TI IC (various DSPs and such) that don't support XDS1xx series debug / programming interfaces but instead require one of their higher end XDS interfaces or some 3rd party debug / programming tool that CCS supports so for those there's a benefit in getting this more full version of CCS.

A disappointing thing (to me) is that TI has 8051 series cores in a lot of their older Chipcon derived parts that aren't supported at all by the CCS compiler or the XDS1xx / MSP-FET series program & debug interfaces so for those you're stuck using IAR 8051 professional compiler and the CC-DEBUGGER interface or something like that, and to further complictate matters their own "available in binary library only form" software for these like Z-STACK is only available in IAR specific library form so there's just no way to use them with CCS or anything else.

Actually, even more disappointing, IIRC Z-STACK even for their ARM and MSP processors might be tied only to the commercial IAR toolchain and not supported under any CCS version.

You can get an XDS110 debugger that's capable of programming the devkit's integrated device (of course) but also can be switched over to allow programming / debugging external boards/parts (after some jumper changes etc.) on a couple of their devkits like some basic models of the MSP432 and CC2650 kits IIRC.  That's potentially handy for the free CCS version.

I still have no idea why they didn't just make the code & HW for the XDS100, XDS110 work to also program MSP430 parts at least the ones with two wire SBW programming interfaces.  Surely that couldn't have been a hard option...


 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2016, 03:03:55 am »
FYI to Aussies the shipping charge is US$6.99 and free for orders over US$150.

The same price even shipped from US to US.
 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2016, 03:09:05 am »
A nice thing that has happened at some point in the past few years is that TI has apparently extended their estore system so that you can order many of their parts in low (or whatever) quantities as well as development kits / tools.
So for the same shipping cost (at least in the US and for modest quantities of items)  you can get some parts too.

I didn't notice that their low quantity parts prices from their estore were particularly good compared to, say,  digikey or Mouser, but they weren't so bad that I didn't throw in many of my "I should get that" items from TI into the order along with the devkit that I was ordering anyway.

I could have spent all day finding / adding parts like opamps and such...

 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2016, 03:59:05 am »

If you're a collector of dev-kits, who isn't?. At least I hope i'm not the only one who has trouble resisting a coupon.

Ha, yeah I have several TI dev kits - all had for low prices. I've actually used some of them for online courses - the Tiva C for the UT embedded course (using Keil) and the MSP430 for a UC Berkeley electonics/robotics course (used Energia).

I'm having a hard time resisting this. Not sure I'll ever need a full CCS license but if nothing else it would be nice to have a socketed MSP430 dev board...
 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2016, 04:20:58 am »

Are there any links still available to those courses you mentioned?

https://www.edx.org/course/embedded-systems-shape-world-utaustinx-ut-6-03x

https://www.edx.org/course/electronic-interfaces-bridging-physical-uc-berkeleyx-ee40lx-0#!

Both highly recomended.  The UCB course is rather elementary - but fun.

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2016, 04:51:32 am »
https://www.edx.org/course/embedded-systems-shape-world-utaustinx-ut-6-03x

There is a continuation to this course that will be starting september 15.
It will be based on MSP432, RTOS   and  bluetooth 

Real-Time Bluetooth Networks - Shape the World

In their announce
https://www.edx.org/course/real-time-bluetooth-networks-shape-world-utaustinx-ut-rtbn-12-01x

they require quite a lot of material from Ti .
http://edx-org-utaustinx.s3.amazonaws.com/UT601x/RTOSkit.html

So if you intend to follow this course,  this could be a good opportunity.

LaunchPad: EK-TM4C123GXL or MSP-EXP432P401R
MK-II I/O booster: BOOSTXL-EDUMKII
CC2650 Bluetooth module: BOOSTXL-CC2650MA or LAUNCHXL-CC2650

I must say that I ordered the BOOSTXL-EDUMKII which is bundled with the MSP-EXP432P401R
https://store.ti.com/msp-bndl-p401redu.aspx for 39.99$,
but did not run for the bluetooth module which I find quite expensive.

It should  not be used before the end of the course.


 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2016, 03:38:12 am »
Is this version of CCS support developing applications for other families like Concerto or sitara ? or it is locked to this LaunchPad series?
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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2016, 06:09:56 am »
The code of the item is TMDSCCS-ALLN01D

This is what is written in my order form.

So its should be the full version, with no restrictions. Exactly the one that retails 445$.

You can dowload it already. They will just send some licence file that i have not received yet.
 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2016, 07:26:52 am »
Does any one received license file?
Is this license contain any online or mail/ticket based support?
Is this possible to activate a CCS V5 with this license ?
Are they crazy?Who will pay 450 $ for CCS after this?
Is allowed for using in commercial projects ?
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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2016, 05:56:49 pm »
I've received my license file and am installing CCS. Seems like it is a full permanent license.

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2016, 12:21:58 am »
A nice thing that has happened at some point in the past few years is that TI has apparently extended their estore system so that you can order many of their parts in low (or whatever) quantities as well as development kits / tools.
So for the same shipping cost (at least in the US and for modest quantities of items)  you can get some parts too.

I didn't notice that their low quantity parts prices from their estore were particularly good compared to, say,  digikey or Mouser, but they weren't so bad that I didn't throw in many of my "I should get that" items from TI into the order along with the devkit that I was ordering anyway.

I could have spent all day finding / adding parts like opamps and such...

yep, price is lower than digikey and they somehow don't charge tax. Funny thing is it ends up being fulfilled by digikey.
 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2016, 01:18:36 am »
Can you use it on just one machine? I would have liked to use it on a desktop and a laptop. I wasn't sure so I bought two.
Did you receive the Launchpads? Mine have a months wait on them.

It can bind to another MAC address, or you can bind to a USB ethernet card as a license dongle.
My launchpad is on its way to my place, shipped yesterday.
 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2016, 02:00:44 am »
If you have any XDS100 based jtag you don't need to buy
http://dangerousprototypes.com/blog/2012/02/23/using-tis-code-compresser-studio-ide-for-free/
As others have said, it also gives you a code size unlimited version of the TI compilers for both MSP430 and MSP432.
http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/FAQ_-_CCSv4#Q:_What_advantages_does_a_paid_license_give_me.3F

I've received my license file and am installing CCS. Seems like it is a full permanent license.


Can you use it on just one machine? I would have liked to use it on a desktop and a laptop. I wasn't sure so I bought two.
Did you receive the Launchpads? Mine have a months wait on them.
Check: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/FAQ_-_CCSv4#Q:_How_many_computers_can_I_use_a_node_locked_license_with.3F
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