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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #100 on: October 07, 2016, 09:30:23 pm »
Well, I finally got CCS installed, updated and licensed. It looks quite bewildering, even in "simple" mode. I'm mainly interested in playing with the new UCD series digital power supply controllers but it looks like by the time I figure out how to actually use CCS I could have designed and laid out a few boards.

Any other 1st time users equally perplexed, or have I reached my level of incompetence?  :scared:

No you have not. And wait when you START wasting time with CCS, and when you eventually get a prototype just for programming it.
If you want to start producing more and wasting time less, check the PSoc family from Cypress, great documentation, great compiler, great dev boards, analog modules inside the chip, graphical configuration of PWM, timers, buses... I love it and now all my MSP boards are on the dumpster

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Nope, no agenda. I could give you more details on this but, pointless.
Just a happy customer who lost time in the past, and would like others to become aware of a better solution. And I've been a Texas Instruments fan since I graduated in EE, did projects with C54s and C62s DSPs in that time. I agree that I may look like a Cypress rep though.

 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #101 on: October 07, 2016, 10:22:37 pm »
Well, I finally got CCS installed, updated and licensed. It looks quite bewildering, even in "simple" mode. I'm mainly interested in playing with the new UCD series digital power supply controllers but it looks like by the time I figure out how to actually use CCS I could have designed and laid out a few boards.

Any other 1st time users equally perplexed, or have I reached my level of incompetence?  :scared:

No you have not. And wait when you START wasting time with CCS, and when you eventually get a prototype just for programming it.
If you want to start producing more and wasting time less, check the PSoc family from Cypress, great documentation, great compiler, great dev boards, analog modules inside the chip, graphical configuration of PWM, timers, buses... I love it and now all my MSP boards are on the dumpster

You seem to have an agenda.


Nope, no agenda. I could give you more details on this but, pointless.
Just a happy customer who lost time in the past, and would like others to become aware of a better solution. And I've been a Texas Instruments fan since I graduated in EE, did projects with C54s and C62s DSPs in that time. I agree that I may look like a Cypress rep though.

Sorry, I didn't mean ulterior motive or anything negative.

I think many times vendors do get stuck with what they have for various reasons.  As someone who is not even at the level of novice, I recognize this in e.g. scopes.  Legacy customers, laziness, inertia, etc.  TI seems big enough and ancient enough that they may very well be in this boat with a lot of products.

But I looked at Cypress and the website was just too hard to navigate.  Couldn't even find a family to family comparison chart.  Still, with what I did find, it seemed they were heavily oriented to 32bit and devices with large number of I/O.  Seemed to be consistent with "SoC" vs TI "MCU".  Does Cypress have anything that is more on the order of only 4-8 I/O pins?
 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #102 on: October 08, 2016, 01:18:56 am »
Cypress' best offerings are ARM CORTEX-M0 / M3 type devices some of which have some fairly noteworthy and perhaps somewhat unusual integrated peripherals such as CPLD-like digital blocks (UDBs), programmable function/configuration/interconnection analog signal processing blocks, a bluetooth low energy modem, fairly high resolution sigma delta ADCs, and so forth.  Those are the PSOC 4 / 5 lines.  They also inherited some other ARM MCUs from Spansion.
I don't think Cypress specializes in the 4-8 I/O pin MCU class anymore.  They had some specialty analog/digital/sensor interface integrated 8-bit MCUs with the PSOC-1 line but those are pretty close to obsolete these days.

Actually I do recollect that a couple off their lowest end PSOC 4000 series Cortex-M0 MCUs are around $0.45 and have only a few pins, though I forget if that's 8 pins, 16, 24, or something in between.  That's fairly comparable to a low to mid-range value line MSP430 IC, same or less peripherals, better processor wrt. 32 bit ARM C-M0 that's faster anyway.

Some of their bluetooth ICs and other ARM C-M0 ICs are in packages with under 24 I/O pins.



I think many times vendors do get stuck with what they have for various reasons.  As someone who is not even at the level of novice, I recognize this in e.g. scopes.  Legacy customers, laziness, inertia, etc.  TI seems big enough and ancient enough that they may very well be in this boat with a lot of products.

But I looked at Cypress and the website was just too hard to navigate.  Couldn't even find a family to family comparison chart.  Still, with what I did find, it seemed they were heavily oriented to 32bit and devices with large number of I/O.  Seemed to be consistent with "SoC" vs TI "MCU".  Does Cypress have anything that is more on the order of only 4-8 I/O pins?
 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #103 on: October 25, 2016, 05:39:57 am »

Today the 3 promotions  are still valid, but the shipping is no longer free (6.99$)

I got this from TI and just used the code today.

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Limit one coupon code per customer. Coupon expires December 31, 2016.
 
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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #104 on: October 29, 2016, 01:23:43 am »
I just ordered a couple of these as well.  It seems the CCS license is $.01 and the dev board the remainder of the total.

It's always possible to run it on a VM, where you can set the MAC address to whatever you want.
 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #105 on: October 31, 2016, 10:41:09 am »
It's always possible to run it on a VM, where you can set the MAC address to whatever you want.

You don't need a VM to set the MAC to whatever.  You can change your real hardware's MAC address also.
 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #106 on: October 31, 2016, 10:47:38 am »
After buying this I learned of the Mac version of CCS.  Which doesn't require licensing.

I'm having some problems debugging my target (board doesn't always respond and then I have to reset) but I haven't checked to see if CCS on Windows has the same problem or not.  Still, running CCS on Mac makes life generally easier for me and allows me to "get over" the issues with Eclipse -- which is worse (buggier) on Mac than elsewhere, but no dealbreakers for me.  So, I "wasted" my $9.99 but am happy about it.
 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #107 on: October 31, 2016, 04:35:54 pm »
It's always possible to run it on a VM, where you can set the MAC address to whatever you want.

You don't need a VM to set the MAC to whatever.  You can change your real hardware's MAC address also.

The point of using a VM is to be able to run the compiler on a different computer without the hassle of swapping MAC addresses or contacting TI.  You can just move the VM with the compiler installed wherever you want and run it.
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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #108 on: November 01, 2016, 08:10:49 am »
It's always possible to run it on a VM, where you can set the MAC address to whatever you want.

You don't need a VM to set the MAC to whatever.  You can change your real hardware's MAC address also.

The point of using a VM is to be able to run the compiler on a different computer without the hassle of swapping MAC addresses or contacting TI.  You can just move the VM with the compiler installed wherever you want and run it.

Sure, that's a decent feature of a VM for a home user.  For an enterprise/commercial/professional usage you need to keep a backup of your VM and in that case, recovery or migration of the bare metal is just as easy as for a VM.

But that wasn't the stated reason.  The stated reason was to set the MAC address to a value of your choice and this is trivially easy on bare metal as well as a VM.  For that specific reason there's zero advantage to a VM.
 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #109 on: November 01, 2016, 08:26:48 am »
After buying this I learned of the Mac version of CCS.  Which doesn't require licensing.

That doesn't sound right. What made you think the Mac version doesn't require licencing?

The fact that I am running the latest Mac version and it doesn't have any licensing?  There is no place to add a license (the menu option is simply absent) and no indication of licensed status to the user (the status area at the bottom of the window frame is blank).  Are you using CCS on a Mac?  Where do you enter the licensing info?

Also, the TI instructions for generating the license (obtaining your MAC address) do not have any Mac OS instructions.  I think it's safe to generalize and state that most Mac OS users have no clue how to get the system MAC address, GUI or CLI, so it would be important to tell them how to obtain it.

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The licencing is to enable unrestricted code size. That applies to all platforms as far as I am aware. Yes you can use the gcc open source compiler to get around that but then you don't get the "benefits" of the TI compiler on some controllers.

Again, are you using CCS on Mac OS?  I don't mean that as a challenge, I only ask it because you say, "as far as you are aware".  I'm just wondering if you are making an assumption or if you have first hand knowledge.

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Why do you say Eclipse is buggier on Mac? Are we taking about the same version of Eclipse, or is there some other software that is downlevel causing a problem?

I'm referring to the base Eclipse features, not the toolchain.  I'm using CCS 6.2.0.00050 which is on top of Eclipse "platform" 4.5.1 and CDT 8.8.0.  I use Eclipse professionally on Linux so I'm very familiar with its feature set and quirks.  CCS on Mac is just hobby stuff for me.
 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #110 on: November 01, 2016, 01:14:08 pm »
CCS supports MAC and fixed node licensing. The floating license aren't supported.
The license that's discussed in the title of this thread works on MAC.
 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #111 on: November 01, 2016, 03:18:31 pm »

Why do you say Eclipse is buggier on Mac? Are we taking about the same version of Eclipse, or is there some other software that is downlevel causing a problem?

I'm referring to the base Eclipse features, not the toolchain.  I'm using CCS 6.2.0.00050 which is on top of Eclipse "platform" 4.5.1 and CDT 8.8.0.  I use Eclipse professionally on Linux so I'm very familiar with its feature set and quirks.  CCS on Mac is just hobby stuff for me.
Interesting note; I have been using CCS for Mac OSX for a few months and, despite not being well versed in this OS, I can tell I haven't hit any major issues with it. I also use CCS for Linux for years and haven't noticed a tremendous difference in performance and bugs (despite the Mac OSX version uses a lot more memory), but perhaps I am not hitting the correct buttons... :)

edit: I actually take that back; I was comparing the 32-bit version for Linux (CCSv6.1.3) with the 64-bit version of Mac OSX (CCSv6.2.0). When I started the 64-bit version for Linux (CCSv6.2.0) I saw it uses around 100MB less RAM when compared to the Mac OSX version (hovering around 850MB).
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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #112 on: November 01, 2016, 06:05:32 pm »
CCS supports MAC and fixed node licensing. The floating license aren't supported.
The license that's discussed in the title of this thread works on MAC.

We're now talking about Mac OS not MAC (address) vs floating licenses.
 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #113 on: November 01, 2016, 10:27:24 pm »
I got this from TI and just used the code today.

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As a thank you for visiting the TI store, please enjoy free shipping on your next order. The TI store is the place to shop for TI devices, development tools and software for all your design needs. Use coupon code “FALLFREESHIP” at checkout.
Limit one coupon code per customer. Coupon expires December 31, 2016.

thanks so much for sharing this! I had been considering a C2000 launchpad for a control project I'm starting. now I have the launchpad coming and a full CCS license with one of the 430 launchpads, and a couple of other goodies with free shipping.
 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #114 on: November 02, 2016, 05:03:35 am »
CCS supports MAC and fixed node licensing. The floating license aren't supported.
The license that's discussed in the title of this thread works on MAC.

We're now talking about Mac OS not MAC (address) vs floating licenses.
so was I
 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #115 on: November 02, 2016, 05:30:19 am »
What are the major differences between the three promo boards:

MSP-EXP430FR5994   $15.99

MSP-EXP430G2   $9.99

MSP-EXP432P401R   $12.99

If I get one or two, I want to use them with their Booster Packs and I am checking if they will work with them (not easy) and I hope to use the secret word FALLFREESHIP

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #116 on: November 02, 2016, 05:34:29 am »
What are the major differences between the three promo boards:

MSP-EXP430FR5994   $15.99

MSP-EXP430G2   $9.99

MSP-EXP432P401R   $12.99

They are for somewhat different chips.

The MSP-EXP430G2 is for the MSP430G2/F2 range, which are relatively simple, low end chips. It has a terrible UART on it. Great place to start out with the range, though.

The MSP-EXP430FR5994 is for the FR5 series, which is a substantially more complex chip with many more features, and is also FRAM equipped. Quite a change from the G2.

The MSP-EXP432P401R is for the MSP432, which is an ARM based chip with MSP430 peripherals. A bit of an odd beast and newest and least available chip.
 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #117 on: November 02, 2016, 05:38:14 am »
The MSP-EXP430G2 is for the MSP430G2/F2 range, which are relatively simple, low end chips. It has a terrible UART on it. Great place to start out with the range, though.
What don't you like about the UART on that device? Most people find it a very flexible peripheral.
 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #118 on: November 02, 2016, 09:04:45 am »
After buying this I learned of the Mac version of CCS.  Which doesn't require licensing.

That doesn't sound right. What made you think the Mac version doesn't require licencing?

I use Mac OsX, and was also a little bit confused by  the  license management on Mac OsX. So I asked the Ti support

https://e2e.ti.com/support/development_tools/code_composer_studio/f/81/t/544715

The bottom  line is that although nothing seems to happen, and the license management is different from the other OS,
licensing actually does exist.

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The license system will attempt to use the first MAC address and if that fails it will try the second one. The MacOS version of CCS gives no indication of success, only failure. It is using a different system from the Windows version. These will be aligned in a release at the end of the year.

In summary if you are not getting an error then everything is working fine.
 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #119 on: November 02, 2016, 09:30:33 am »
ok, well how do you load the license?  There is only one set of instructions across all platforms on how to load it, and the method described is not possible on Mac OS since the menu option does not exist.

edit: nevermind I followed your link and it is described there.
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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #120 on: November 02, 2016, 12:04:32 pm »
The MSP-EXP430G2 is for the MSP430G2/F2 range, which are relatively simple, low end chips. It has a terrible UART on it. Great place to start out with the range, though.
What don't you like about the UART on that device? Most people find it a very flexible peripheral.

The dev board, not the target chip. Sorry, should've been more clear.
 

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Re: Code Composer Studio for 9.99$ with a MSP-EXP430G2-MSP430 LaunchPad
« Reply #121 on: November 06, 2016, 12:37:05 am »
Still works - enables the full license for $9.99.  Excellent!

I use CCS with my own boards (using Tag-Connect plugs and an MSP-FET) but I suppose it can't hurt to have a few spare launchpad boards in the bin.
 


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