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Offline ElecSeb

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Re: Denon AVR-2105 red light flashing
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2018, 06:51:28 pm »
What I am trying to explain, are BCE having the expected signals.
What you could do is solder the toshiba in, but leave E loose. Measure while playing if output is correct.
(put mono signal on FL and FR and compare the signal between the 2 transistors -> should be equal)

Or an other option is to place a known transistor from FR to FL and see what happens (probably it will also go in protect)
 
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Re: Denon AVR-2105 red light flashing
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2018, 09:13:10 pm »
Something else to consider about the Toshiba transistors.  They could be counterfeit.  A common mistake made by counterfeiters is to fake label no-name conventional transistors with Darlington part numbers. I know, because I’ve had this happen myself. I bought the devices through a reputable distributor, too. Counterfeit semiconductors are a scourge!
By the way, when checking your transistors, be sure to use the diode test mode.  A Darlington will not show the same numbers a regular bipolar transistor will.  Measure a bunch of known good transistors to get familiar with the reading your particular meter gives for a diode or transistor junction. Then you can tell if something isn’t right. I wonder if those Toshibas are not Darlingtons? Just a thought.
Also, I just reread your post about testing the transistors.  A Darlington will have a different reading on the BE pins.  Look at the output transistors on the schematic.  The B to E connection passes through *two* junctions. This will normally give you approximately twice the regular reading on your diode test.  This particular transistor has a resistor across the BE junction of the power transistor section, so the reading will be a bit lower. If you get a single junction reading on BE, it isn’t a Darlington transistor.
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Offline occhio37Topic starter

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Re: Denon AVR-2105 red light flashing
« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2018, 03:30:24 pm »
Good afternoon everyone! I have already received Sanken transistors and are already mounted on the amplifier. Everything is ok, all 7 channels working in full, "DENON AVR is alive and in good health"  :-+. These Darlinghton Sanken transistors were measured (diode test) and are actually different from Toshiba (these must be counterfeited). I want to thank all the people who were helping with their tips  ;)
 

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Re: Denon AVR-2105 red light flashing
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2019, 09:55:37 am »
Hello. Im dealing with same beast.. FL Channel have blown output transistors.. i cut legs off to make it work with other channels.. but it still in protect mode.. i see few resistors near blowen.. should i change them to get out of protection mode or they dont needed if i leave this channel dead?
 

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Re: Denon AVR-2105 red light flashing
« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2019, 10:13:57 am »
Oh i think i see where its going.. there is like protection indication transistors Q104FL Q104SL Q104C and so on if i cut it out it should release that line.

Already did that and its alive ;D not worth to replace parts as it already in bad condition.. was dumped in sweden and somebody took it from dump :)
Anyhow Thanks to this thread author to shed some light :) and god bless service manuals :D

Cheers.
 

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Re: Denon AVR-2105 red light flashing
« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2019, 10:52:26 am »
Other problem how without remote to turn on Channel B for Tuner? :D
 


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