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Offline WatchdogTopic starter

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Hi everyone, i'm a new member, i bought an FMD link from aliexpress, but i can't use it because i can't find the FMD IDE development software and device drivers. Is there someone who can help me please? thank you  |O
 

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Re: FMD IDE (fremont micro devices) i can't find and download it
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2022, 11:20:22 pm »
let me know if you are still looking . I got here version IDE3.0.7.7
 
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Re: FMD IDE (fremont micro devices) i can't find and download it
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2022, 09:04:07 pm »
Here a link to the FMD IDE 3.0.7
https://we.tl/t-lJ6xOsLExz
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Re: FMD IDE (fremont micro devices) i can't find and download it
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2022, 08:18:54 am »
@Bikkel, Any chance you can post the link to the Fremont IDE again? The one posted expired. Thanks, Max
 

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Re: FMD IDE (fremont micro devices) i can't find and download it
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2022, 07:27:12 am »
Sorry for my late reply. Here a new link to the IDE.
I'm busy translating the Chinese data sheets to English. Let me know if these are of value to you.

link: 
https://we.tl/t-MuXfpAJPiR

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Bikkel
 

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Re: FMD IDE (fremont micro devices) i can't find and download it
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2022, 03:42:11 pm »
If anyone can share download link to IDE it would be appreciated, i do have v2.17 but it seems definitions and example for FT60F210 mcu are not available.
Thanks!

EDIT: i did found that FT62F21x and FT60F21x are on same datasheet/examples.
« Last Edit: December 07, 2022, 03:52:07 pm by medamarko »
 

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Re: FMD IDE (fremont micro devices) i can't find and download it
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2022, 11:25:05 am »
Here a link to IDE 3.0.9E

https://we.tl/t-0XxfCbkywp
 
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Re: FMD IDE (fremont micro devices) i can't find and download it
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2022, 12:09:49 am »
Interesting, they switched from Hi-Tech compiler to GCC in IDE v3.0.7.
..\IDE3.0.9E\data\bin\gcc8.exe
GNU C Compiler for 8 bit devices.
Release date : 15/06/20
 

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Re: FMD IDE (fremont micro devices) i can't find and download it
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2022, 09:19:44 am »
If you enter compiler setting gcc.exe it says it is not supported. However if you use c.exe it compiles. There is also a directory FCC instead of GCC. I tried to compile those but I get errors. Any idea what compiler you must select ? I would like to compare compilers and select the best one.
 

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Re: FMD IDE (fremont micro devices) i can't find and download it
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2022, 11:42:29 pm »
Running "c.exe" also reports GCC8:
GNU C Compiler for 8 bit devices.
Release date : 15/06/20
(880) invalid number of parameters. Use "GCC8 --HELP" for help

Early versions of FMD IDE apparently used Hi-Tech compiler:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/fremont-micro-devices-microcontroller-programming/msg3446374/#msg3446374

That was probably fishy license-wise so they moved to GCC.
Can't recommend which compiler is better. It seems that only c.exe (GCC) works now.
 

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Re: FMD IDE (fremont micro devices) i can't find and download it
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2023, 04:28:18 pm »
Running "c.exe" also reports GCC8:
GNU C Compiler for 8 bit devices.
Release date : 15/06/20
(880) invalid number of parameters. Use "GCC8 --HELP" for help

Early versions of FMD IDE apparently used Hi-Tech compiler:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/fremont-micro-devices-microcontroller-programming/msg3446374/#msg3446374

That was probably fishy license-wise so they moved to GCC.
Can't recommend which compiler is better. It seems that only c.exe (GCC) works now.

if you see xclm.exe inside the compiler directory that's actually XC8 Compiler from Microchip! they repacked the compiler with a custom-made UPX packer to avoid getting their compiler detected as XC8! for copyright reasons probably! I wrote about this some time ago here or in another thread. from my analysis some time ago, I remember the IDE just invokes the compiler with command line arguments to produce the HEX file and the assembly listing file, BUT it doesn't use the HEX file. it uses the assembly listing file and starts performing some changes based on the OPCODE if I remember correctly, then the IDE reproduces the HEX file based on the new listing file and adds the config bytes at the end. this verifies the theory that the FMD-like MCUs are actually PIC clones with modified OPCODE values (they perform exactly the same instructions as PICs except for the hex code for an OPCODE is different which is no big deal and also the registry and RAM bank addresses and behaviors are a bit different). My guess is that they went through all this problem just because of copyright reasons. other than that, the Chinese engineers actually cloned the PICs...

anyways, I wanted to clone the programmer and make a cheaper version but I never had the time! if anyone has the time PM me.

we already have pictures of the programmer (both the bridge and the one with the LCD but not the newer Type C version)

it is possible the debugger and the programmer logics are similar as well(the working voltage isn't). if that is the case, we can fully integrate the FMD ICs into MPLabX and use all the features of the modern IDE.

also if you have the newest 3.1.0 IDE please share it.
« Last Edit: March 07, 2023, 04:36:27 pm by danymogh »
 

Offline mbidaki

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Re: FMD IDE (fremont micro devices) i can't find and download it
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2023, 07:30:55 pm »
Hello can you share the fmd ide again?
 

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Re: FMD IDE (fremont micro devices) i can't find and download it
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2023, 02:15:59 pm »
Why do you even want to use parts from that company if the tools are not available in a normal way?

I'd much rather pay EUR2 for a microcontroller which has a normally obaitnable toolchain, than make myself dependent on some sketchy toolchain and uncertain manufacturer even if they give away their parts for free.

When I'm interested in some new microcontroller (family), the (un) availablility of tools is one of the first things to research, and it is simply a deal breaker when they are not available.
 

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Re: FMD IDE (fremont micro devices) i can't find and download it
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2023, 04:27:29 pm »
Why do you even want to use parts from that company if the tools are not available in a normal way?

I'd much rather pay EUR2 for a microcontroller which has a normally obaitnable toolchain, than make myself dependent on some sketchy toolchain and uncertain manufacturer even if they give away their parts for free.

When I'm interested in some new microcontroller (family), the (un) availablility of tools is one of the first things to research, and it is simply a deal breaker when they are not available.

the reason for the IDE not being publicly available is because you have to buy their product first and obtain the IDE via the agent. that's what it says on their website. also since they are embedding XC8 compiler in their installation it's also a copyright infringement which is think they are trying to avoid.
 

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Re: FMD IDE (fremont micro devices) i can't find and download it
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2023, 02:42:30 pm »
Thank you, but after downloading the files, none of each setup file worked.
 

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Re: FMD IDE (fremont micro devices) i can't find and download it
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2023, 08:17:26 pm »
The setup from the Mega link works fine here.

I only installed:
 1_CompilerSetup2.0.3
 2_FMDIDE_Setup_V3.1.1.3

Was enough to create and compile a new project.

The setup files require admin rights, it might be your problem.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2023, 08:19:40 pm by DavidAlfa »
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Re: FMD IDE (fremont micro devices) i can't find and download it
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2023, 07:31:11 pm »
I had the same issue, after unpacking the files, they seems to be corrupted in some way.

unpack files with winrar 6.22 - files corrupt
unpack files with winzip 26.0 pro - files corrupt
unpack files with 7zip 22.01- files corrupt

open files in winrar - files corrupt
open files in winzip - files corrupt
open files in 7zip - files are all okay

So i dont know whats makes the difference between unpacking or opening the files in 7zip

But it workes for me.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2023, 10:34:34 pm by xinetic »
 

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Re: FMD IDE (fremont micro devices) i can't find and download it
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2023, 09:12:47 pm »
Which WinRAR version?
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Re: FMD IDE (fremont micro devices) i can't find and download it
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2024, 09:05:28 am »
Hi!
I'm experiencing the same problem with this download. Could someone please provide a working link?

Thanks!
 

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Re: FMD IDE (fremont micro devices) i can't find and download it
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2024, 09:03:51 pm »
7-Zip x64 23.01 does fine:

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