FTDIgate 2.0?

[metrologist]

What's happening now? Is my chinese arduino clone just not going to work one day because I'm using a Windows PC and it updates itself?

[Chipguy]

What's happening now? Is my chinese arduino clone just not going to work one day because I'm using a Windows PC and it updates itself?

Not exactly. Your stuff could indeed stop working due to automated updates. You will then need to install the latest driver manually to make it work again. I depends on what exact version your driver is being updated to, automatically.
2.12.10 works ok (I have tested that)
2.12.11 Unknown
2.12.12 does not work with the ICs that have that date code mentioned in my post from yesterday. (I can confirm for 1549 and 1550)
2.12.13 - 2.12.15: Unknown
2.12.16 should work fine, according to FTDI
2.12.17 shoud also work, since previous driver works, according to FTDI
2.12.18 (current driver at 01. July 2016) works ok again (I am currently using that one)

[metrologist]

OK, so version 2.12.12 won't brick my chip, but it will at least tell me if I have fake chips, unless I happen to have the lucky date codes of the genuine chip? I'm half tempted to try it, just so I might know if my chips are fake (or just lucky), cause they look genuine to me, but who knows?


p.s., my last arduino buys intentially had genuine chinese chip CH0whatever replacement for the FT232rl.

[Chipguy]

If the date codes of your chips match one in the list, you can try.

[metrologist]

Thanks for the info. If anything is amiss, I'll buy http://www.ebay.com/itm/10PCS-IC-FT232RL-100-ORIGINAL-FTDI-SSOP-28-NEW-DATE-CODE-/351494343433? an solve all my worries

[westfw]

Heh.  Buying new FTDI chips from eBay to fix counterfeit problems is like using random bottles of liquid from your garage to try to extinguish a fire...

(Most Chinese Arduino clone vendors have abandoned FTDI (counterfeit OR real) in favor of the CH340g USB/Serial converters.  An interesting change, since it shows that SOMEONE is capable of doing more than just stealing the original design.)

(I would love to here the inside story of how FTDI managed to decide their own chips were "not genuine."   Sigh.)

[technix]

Heh.  Buying new FTDI chips from eBay to fix counterfeit problems is like using random bottles of liquid from your garage to try to extinguish a fire...

(Most Chinese Arduino clone vendors have abandoned FTDI (counterfeit OR real) in favor of the CH340g USB/Serial converters.  An interesting change, since it shows that SOMEONE is capable of doing more than just stealing the original design.)

(I would love to here the inside story of how FTDI managed to decide their own chips were "not genuine."   Sigh.)

I have moved almost all my Arduino-compatibles to CH340G. Easier than FT232 to solder, much cheaper, and the company that makes those chips is two hour drive from my city.

[edavid]

(Most Chinese Arduino clone vendors have abandoned FTDI (counterfeit OR real) in favor of the CH340g USB/Serial converters.  An interesting change, since it shows that SOMEONE is capable of doing more than just stealing the original design.)

There was no "stealing".  The Supereal IC is just as much an original design as the CH340g.  It implements the FT232R interface, but the design is totally different.  (It even fixes some of the bugs in the FTDI part.)