Kilobyte

[IDEngineer]

I'm unsubscribing from this thread. Maybe if most of us do so, those who remain can just argue amongst themselves which will consume their time, thus cleaning up the OTHER threads where we can discuss meaningful issues.

Just a thought.

[fourfathom]

I'm unsubscribing from this thread. Maybe if most of us do so, those who remain can just argue amongst themselves which will consume their time, thus cleaning up the OTHER threads where we can discuss meaningful issues.

Just a thought.

Here's my way of putting it:  Those of us who enjoy discussing the topic, and perhaps random thread-drift, can continue to talk here.  Those who don't can unsubscribe as IDEngineer have done (or just ignore the thread -- the title is quite obvious) and then they won't be bothered by our mindless babble.  Their valuable time is now available to discuss meaningful issues, no doubt to the betterment of humanity.  Perhaps unfortunately for them, this won't prevent some of us from also participating in those "meaningful" threads, but such is life.

[Nusa]

I'm unsubscribing from this thread. Maybe if most of us do so, those who remain can just argue amongst themselves which will consume their time, thus cleaning up the OTHER threads where we can discuss meaningful issues.

Just a thought.

As a purely technical question on forum mechanics, how does one unsubscribe from a thread that they've already replied to?
I do not see a way to prevent future replies from others from showing up under: "Show new replies to your posts."

[fourfathom]

As a purely technical question on forum mechanics, how does one unsubscribe from a thread that they've already replied to?
I do not see a way to prevent future replies from others from showing up under: "Show new replies to your posts."

FWIW, I do know that this is possible, as I've done it myself.  I think it was just the "Ignore Topics" option, and that worked for "replies" as well as the general "new", but I'm not sure.

[Monkeh]

I'm unsubscribing from this thread. Maybe if most of us do so, those who remain can just argue amongst themselves which will consume their time, thus cleaning up the OTHER threads where we can discuss meaningful issues.

Just a thought.

As a purely technical question on forum mechanics, how does one unsubscribe from a thread that they've already replied to?
I do not see a way to prevent future replies from others from showing up under: "Show new replies to your posts."

Bottom right of the thread is a toolbar with a notify/unnotify button on it.

[Nusa]

I'm unsubscribing from this thread. Maybe if most of us do so, those who remain can just argue amongst themselves which will consume their time, thus cleaning up the OTHER threads where we can discuss meaningful issues.

Just a thought.

As a purely technical question on forum mechanics, how does one unsubscribe from a thread that they've already replied to?
I do not see a way to prevent future replies from others from showing up under: "Show new replies to your posts."

Bottom right of the thread is a toolbar with a notify/unnotify button on it.

I suspect the vast majority of eevblog readers never use that button, including me. Can't turn off what I've never turned on.
Responding to a thread seems to be an permanent override to it anyway. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Once again, how does one unsubscribe a thread from "Show new replies to your posts"?

[rsjsouza]

Just below the forum title at the top of the page and near your username, click on "Show new replies to your posts". Then, at the very far right of the list of topics you can check the boxes of the threads you want to ignore and click on "Ignore topics".

[Monkeh]

I'm unsubscribing from this thread. Maybe if most of us do so, those who remain can just argue amongst themselves which will consume their time, thus cleaning up the OTHER threads where we can discuss meaningful issues.

Just a thought.

As a purely technical question on forum mechanics, how does one unsubscribe from a thread that they've already replied to?
I do not see a way to prevent future replies from others from showing up under: "Show new replies to your posts."

Bottom right of the thread is a toolbar with a notify/unnotify button on it.

I suspect the vast majority of eevblog readers never use that button, including me. Can't turn off what I've never turned on.
Responding to a thread seems to be an permanent override to it anyway. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Once again, how does one unsubscribe a thread from "Show new replies to your posts"?

Yes, sorry, when you said subscribe I thought you meant email notifications. You could just use willpower to ignore the thread in search..

[Nusa]

Just below the forum title at the top of the page and near your username, click on "Show new replies to your posts". Then, at the very far right of the list of topics you can check the boxes of the threads you want to ignore and click on "Ignore topics".

Very strange. I found an image in the SMF documentation so I know what it should look like now. But for me, at least, the checkbox column and ignore topics button is not present. I also found an image where the feature can be selectively enabled/disabled by administration, so perhaps it's simply turned off currently? Or turned off for me or my user class?

[rsjsouza]

Just below the forum title at the top of the page and near your username, click on "Show new replies to your posts". Then, at the very far right of the list of topics you can check the boxes of the threads you want to ignore and click on "Ignore topics".

Very strange. I found an image in the SMF documentation so I know what it should look like now. But for me, at least, the checkbox column and ignore topics button is not present. I also found an image where the feature can be selectively enabled/disabled by administration, so perhaps it's simply turned off currently? Or turned off for me or my user class?

Perhaps I should have copied the entire instructions. Please see below:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/forum-update-new-ignore-topics-feature/msg651768/#msg651768

[Nusa]

Ok, sneaky enable button found in my profile. That was the problem. No idea if I did it to myself at some point or if that was the default setting.

[tggzzz]

Ok, sneaky enable button found in my profile. That was the problem. No idea if I did it to myself at some point or if that was the default setting.

No, that absolutely crap GUI of a white v/circumflex on a pale background did it to you. It is very easy to miss, gives no clue that it is clickable, and no clue what it might do if you unwittingly did click it.

GUIs were like that in the 80s. Then HP (of all companies) introduced the Motif 2D widgets that indicated that there was something to click and which position it was in. Everybody heaved a sigh of relief (ho ho) and rapidly adopted the convention.

Then cretinous weenies that didn't know history decided to revert to "flatty" styles with poor contrast. ISTR hearing that MS has started to undo that with the latest variant of Win10, but I don't care any more.

[SiliconWizard]

Then cretinous weenies that didn't know history decided to revert to "flatty" styles with poor contrast.

Funnily enough, from what I once read, the "renewed interest" in flat design, appearing in the mid to late 2000's, was mainly pushed forward, at first, on mobile devices - it was supposedly making more "efficient" use of limited screen real estate, and was supposedly much lighter on resources for those targets. The funny part is about usability: as you said, it just all tends to make the UI confusing, not exactly seeing what is actionable and what isn't. And, whereas on the desktop, with a mouse, at least you could have "hover highlight" to give you hints (which is still more annoying than just being able to see what is what without having to hover your mouse pointer over things), on a typical mobile device with a touchscreen, there is ZERO hover action possible (so you basically have no idea what is going to happen until you click on something, which in itself makes touchscreen stuff horrible IMO). So that's really extremely not ergonomic on a touchscreen-based GUI.

[tggzzz]

Then cretinous weenies that didn't know history decided to revert to "flatty" styles with poor contrast.

Funnily enough, from what I once read, the "renewed interest" in flat design, appearing in the mid to late 2000's, was mainly pushed forward, at first, on mobile devices - it was supposedly making more "efficient" use of limited screen real estate, and was supposedly much lighter on resources for those targets.

Which is just another example of cretinous weenies not knowing history, in this case Win3.11 on a 640x480 screen or the Mac's 512*342 screen.

The funny part is about usability: as you said, it just all tends to make the UI confusing, not exactly seeing what is actionable and what isn't. And, whereas on the desktop, with a mouse, at least you could have "hover highlight" to give you hints (which is still more annoying than just being able to see what is what without having to hover your mouse pointer over things), on a typical mobile device with a touchscreen, there is ZERO hover action possible (so you basically have no idea what is going to happen until you click on something, which in itself makes touchscreen stuff horrible IMO). So that's really extremely not ergonomic on a touchscreen-based GUI.

Yup

[magic]

Art is created out of an internal need to express who you are, not to meet customer expectations.

Hammer this into your head and you will be able to understand all software and website artwork coming from Silicon Valley, and much more

[Doctorandus_P]

The difference between those binary powers and base 10 also gets worse with bigger numbers.
With kilo / KiBi it's just 2.4%, but with teraBytes it's already increased to 10%

>>> pow(2,10)/pow(10,3)
1.024
>>> pow(2,20)/pow(10,6)
1.048576
>>> pow(2,30)/pow(10,9)
1.073741824
>>> pow(2,40)/pow(10,12)
1.099511627776

[westfw]

You know, having a new numeric prefix (Kibi-whatever) doesn't bother me NEARLY as much as the fact that they've made it TWO characters long!  That's just an awful idea.

[Kjelt]

You know, having a new numeric prefix (Kibi-whatever) doesn't bother me NEARLY as much as the fact that they've made it TWO characters long!  That's just an awful idea.

Little choice or the confusion would have been even greater IMO.
Alternative could have been to put ² or ₂ on it to indicate it is a binary prefix.
Like k²B or k₂B but that still is a second character.

[madires]

k²B equals MB. But k₂B or k_bB would be fine for me. The change from lower case k to upper case K for kibibyte (kB -> KiB) is a bit annoying. I assume it's done to match the other prefixes (Mi, Gi, ...).

[@rt]

I want it to be 1024 bytes of 8 bit each, but it’s the 1000 SI unit that confuses things I think.
I’d prefer all memory units to remain evenly divisible by 8 as well.
I remember reading in a magazine article, an editor referring to HDD marketing Gbs as “Wiesel Gigs”, because the Gbs were rounded.
I loved the term, but it didn’t seem to catch on!

[CatalinaWOW]

This whole thing is a non solution to a minor problem.  The problem has two elements.  First the marketing folk have exploited confusion about the units.  Does anyone think that marketeers will jump to use unambiguous language?  Second, software and hardware folk need to accurately convey such things as cache size, buffering capacity etc.  A good solution to this problem has long existed.  Many programming languages have formal definitions for how to write numbers in non decimal based formats.  The ones I am most familiar with use 0xDDDDi where the I is a base identifier b for binary,  o for octal and h for hexadecimal being the options.  Combining this with standard metric prefixes would address the second issue without a new and unique prefixing system.  The best use of the prefixes would require adjusting their definition.  The symbols would have to be interpreted in the specific number base. kx1000o would be x1000h times x1000h for example.  (This interpretation also solves the marketing problem if strictly applied, but I am sure the marketing departments will somehow not get the word).

[Bassman59]

This whole thing is a non solution to a minor problem.  The problem has two elements.  First the marketing folk have exploited confusion about the units.  Does anyone think that marketeers will jump to use unambiguous language?  Second, software and hardware folk need to accurately convey such things as cache size, buffering capacity etc.  A good solution to this problem has long existed.  Many programming languages have formal definitions for how to write numbers in non decimal based formats.  The ones I am most familiar with use 0xDDDDi where the I is a base identifier b for binary,  o for octal and h for hexadecimal being the options.  Combining this with standard metric prefixes would address the second issue without a new and unique prefixing system.  The best use of the prefixes would require adjusting their definition.  The symbols would have to be interpreted in the specific number base. kx1000o would be x1000h times x1000h for example.  (This interpretation also solves the marketing problem if strictly applied, but I am sure the marketing departments will somehow not get the word).

Hey, it could be worse.

Marketing types could start referring to years like 2k21 being this year.

[bson]

Since the byte isn't an SI unit kB is meaningless from an SI perspective.

I'll never use KibiByte or anything like it, no matter how wrong it rubs some committee.  Sorry, but their opinion is irrelevant.

[Monkeh]

Sorry, but their opinion is irrelevant.

If you don't think others opinions are relevant, why post yours?

[magic]

Because it's yours which is irrelevant, simple as that

Egalitarianism completely takes away your ability to understand many simple things