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[eutectique]

What happens if two people are waiting for lifts and the first lift arrives. Which of them should board it ?

Similar system is installed in the hospital near me. There are 6 lifts named from A to F, and 2 call panels on each floor. When you select the floor on the panel, it displays the lift name shortly, for 3-4 seconds.

[jpanhalt]

What happens if two people are waiting for lifts and the first lift arrives. Which of them should board it ?

Depends on how close you want to be to that person.  I always let the apparent female board first.

In high-rise office buildings at rush-hour, it is not uncommon for people in the US to pick the "up" button when they really want to go down and visa versa.  That could be interpreted as picking the button corresponding to the lift's location,  And then you have the really old manual machines (circa 1920's), in which the operator managed a gate and so forth.  Our chemistry department had one.  The user/operator decided which way to go once the gate was closed.  You could even stop between floors.  Some grad students (not me) enjoyed teasing certain professors that way.

[SiliconWizard]

That shows UIs should be based not just on common sense, but also on widespread conventions to avoid confusion.

Unfortunately, modern computer UI has severely damaged the conventions that had been there for decades. Goes hand in hand with the tendency to push people to a general state of mild schizophrenia, but I'm digressing a bit.

As to lifts, the only UI that appears to remotely make sense is just one button to call the lift to arrive where you are, as fast as it can, using some reasonable processing to optimize its stops, which is definitely not rocket science. And then just buttons to go to the floor you want, and that's it. Any up/down shit is likely to confuse a large number of people if they have not been trained to whatever it could possibly mean.

[james_s]

Depends on how close you want to be to that person.  I always let the apparent female board first.

Why? Is this not sexist?

[jpanhalt]

It's the way I was taught.  Doesn't matter to me how it is labeled.  I still open doors for women, and most of them still thank me.  Maybe that is an advantage of being old.

[tooki]

Marketing had nothing to do with the changes in UI design.   

maybe. whatever/whoever the "think different" BS is pushed by just for the sake of being different with no practical justification.

It does have a practical justification: unifying the touch gesture for iPad and macOS, since many people own both. (You probably don’t know this, but lots of Mac users actually use trackpads, because Apple’s trackpads are really, really good. It’s not like on Windows where most people use a mouse because they get frustrated with the touchpad.)

And it’s a user-configurable setting, so this is a really weird thing to get your panties in a twist about.

[tooki]

Unfortunately, modern computer UI has severely damaged the conventions that had been there for decades. Goes hand in hand with the tendency to push people to a general state of mild schizophrenia, but I'm digressing a bit.

Hear, hear!

I urge anyone who is interested even tangentially about UI design to read the original (1980s) Mac human interface guidelines. While it’s true that we no longer have to assume quite the level of inexperience of back then, it’s a model of user-centric design. Today’s Apple (and Microsoft, and Google…) could really stand to, like… read them.

[newbrain]

As to lifts, the only UI that appears to remotely make sense is just one button to call the lift to arrive where you are, as fast as it can, using some reasonable processing to optimize its stops, which is definitely not rocket science.

That does not make any sense for a lift with intermediate stops. Think a bit more about it.

[shapirus]

iPad and macOS

I don't care about what happens within this or any other religious cult. But it affects those who aren't involved when it spills outside.

[tooki]

iPad and macOS

I don't care about what happens within this or any other religious cult. But it affects those who aren't involved when it spills outside.

1. Be respectful. It’s not a “cult” (never mind religious), they’re simply products used by people who find that they work well for them. (The only real Apple-related religious practice is Apple haters hating on Apple no matter what it does.)
2. Apple doesn’t force any of its competitors to do anything! If the competitors choose to mimic everything Apple does, that’s entirely their own decision.

[SiliconWizard]

As to lifts, the only UI that appears to remotely make sense is just one button to call the lift to arrive where you are, as fast as it can, using some reasonable processing to optimize its stops, which is definitely not rocket science.

That does not make any sense for a lift with intermediate stops. Think a bit more about it.

Surely, I'm all ears!

[newbrain]

Surely, I'm all ears!

I am on floor 2 and I am lazy*, so I decide to get a lift to floor 1. I push the single button on floor 2.
In the meantime a lift full of people going from 1st to 15th is coming up. It stops and opens, I step in and to go 1 floor down I have to make a 29 floors trip (or force the others to go down 1 floor again, for a similar total cost).

Of course that works if the lift does not allow reservation and intermediate stops - like in many small buildings and houses.

Or did I misunderstand your point?

* no, not really. I almost never use lifts even though I work on the 9th floor...