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Offline fredaTopic starter

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The padauk IDE on linux
« on: August 21, 2020, 03:53:31 am »
has anyone got the ide, FPPA_ide.exe to work under wine on linux ? using the 0.89 version atm.(MCU_IDE_0.89.exe)
The ide opens up ok, but then, New Project, the Select Device and Select Chip don't work, thus halting any further progress.
I see it works ok on winXP, I have tried to monitor if its grabbing some special file or whatnot, but nothing i see so far. All exact same
files on my linux machine and xp.
 

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Re: The padauk IDE on linux
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2020, 04:28:09 am »
 

Offline fredaTopic starter

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Re: The padauk IDE on linux
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2020, 06:54:51 am »
thanks, i'm on fedora 32, wine 5.12, so not working. bet its something do do with scanning the INC_PDK dir by the program
will have to use the winxp box. |O
..thought using the padauk s/w as i have the emulator, and would be quick start from Zero.
 

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Re: The padauk IDE on linux
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2020, 07:33:47 am »
Hey freda,

What I do is just run a Windows VM on virtualbox for the padauk IDE, its annoying but at least it works with the manufacturers tools such as the ICE and programmer. You can get free VM's from windows that expire in a month so if you use the virtual box shared folders you can easily transition from VM to VM.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/eevblog-1144-padauk-programmer-reverse-engineering/msg2932506/#msg2932506

But really, go with the open source freepdk.

My understanding was the opensource tools compile to a binary that is incompatible with the official programmer, this matters because if you ever want to build something with these MCU you will want the factory to program them for you. Was I mistaken on this, does the opensource tools make a compatible binary?
 

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Re: The padauk IDE on linux
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2020, 08:05:29 am »
My understanding was the opensource tools compile to a binary that is incompatible with the official programmer, this matters because if you ever want to build something with these MCU you will want the factory to program them for you. Was I mistaken on this, does the opensource tools make a compatible binary?

Freepdk developed a hardware programmer too.
 

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Re: The padauk IDE on linux
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2020, 08:26:33 am »
I recommend trying "PlayOnLinux" as a wine configuration front-end. It let's you install and select different wine versions, you may be able to find one that works.
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Re: The padauk IDE on linux
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2020, 01:47:29 pm »
My understanding was the opensource tools compile to a binary that is incompatible with the official programmer, this matters because if you ever want to build something with these MCU you will want the factory to program them for you. Was I mistaken on this, does the opensource tools make a compatible binary?

Freepdk developed a hardware programmer too.


I am aware they have, which is nice unless you want to make more than a few of something. When I contacted Padauk about getting chips programmed, the prices were very low, If you have to use a custom programmer, I can't imagine that would remain the case. I remember asking about 500 of the PMS154C, and how much it would cost, it was around $36 total for the chips already programmed. Now, if there is a converter between the formats you can program in the open-source compiler and then use the official programmers, I would do that in a heartbeat. Until then, I don't see the point because if I am only making a handful of devices, I will use an AVR.
 

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Re: The padauk IDE on linux
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2020, 02:35:56 pm »
I am aware they have, which is nice unless you want to make more than a few of something. When I contacted Padauk about getting chips programmed, the prices were very low, If you have to use a custom programmer, I can't imagine that would remain the case. I remember asking about 500 of the PMS154C, and how much it would cost, it was around $36 total for the chips already programmed. Now, if there is a converter between the formats you can program in the open-source compiler and then use the official programmers, I would do that in a heartbeat. Until then, I don't see the point because if I am only making a handful of devices, I will use an AVR.

On the other hand the Padauk "compiler" is primitive. And apparently the Padauk binary format is obfuscated in some way. But I suppose makers like you would be their target market.
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Re: The padauk IDE on linux
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2020, 07:22:30 am »
I've successfully run the FPPA_IDE on a "MicroXP" Virtual Box VM with 1G of memory.  It's pretty zippy.(I don't have the real programmer, though, and I don't know how god microXP is as talking to hardware devices.)
 


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