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Offline SiliconWizardTopic starter

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Where to buy a RP2350 chip currently?
« on: October 31, 2024, 09:37:21 pm »
As the title says. I can't seem to find many distributors that currently sell RP2350 chips. Are companies selling dev boards buying directly from the RPi at the moment? If so, what are the conditions? Did I miss something obvious?
 

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Re: Where to buy a RP2350 chip currently?
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2024, 09:59:16 pm »
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RP2350 will be generally available in volume before the end of 2024. To register your interest, and to participate in our samples program, head over to the product page.

Ref: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-pico-2-our-new-5-microcontroller-board-on-sale-now/
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Re: Where to buy a RP2350 chip currently?
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2024, 10:12:43 pm »
Thanks, I don't really see more info on their product page though on how to register my "interest".
So basically, they are selling (or maybe even giving away?) samples to a few selected companies that make dev boards. A "sampling" phase is not unusual, but letting third-parties sell products made with samples is more unusual. I think.

Anyway, I guess we have to contact them directly.
 

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Re: Where to buy a RP2350 chip currently?
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2024, 06:15:26 am »
rp2040 chips also trailed boards by several months...
 

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Re: Where to buy a RP2350 chip currently?
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2024, 06:30:58 am »
OK, don't quite remember - I didn't get interested in the RP2040 immediately when it was released, so I didn't remember that.

Let's hope they can get the silicon bugs fixed by the time they make the chips available. Would be cool.
 

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Re: Where to buy a RP2350 chip currently?
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2024, 08:19:36 pm »
Quote from: westfw on November 01, 2024, 11:15:26 pm
rp2040 chips also trailed boards by several months...

Here's a reference.  The original Picos came out in Jan of 2021, and the chips started appearing in June.

https://hackaday.com/2021/06/01/new-part-day-rp2040-chips-in-single-unit-quantities/
 

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Re: Where to buy a RP2350 chip currently?
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2024, 02:47:25 am »
In early September, I received an email from Raspberry Pi inviting me to register for sample kits. I did so. Subsequently, in October, I received another email indicating that a shipping note/advice had been sent to their warehouse for the following items:

RP235x Sample Kit
  • 10 x RP2350A
  • 10 x RP2350B
  • 20 x SRP2010DPA-3R3M
  • 20 x ABM8-272-T3
  • 20 x W25Q32RVXHJQ
As of now, I have not received any actual shipping notification.
« Last Edit: November 04, 2024, 02:49:28 am by kaevee »
 

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Re: Where to buy a RP2350 chip currently?
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2024, 03:14:51 am »
https://rpilocator.com is helpful to find RP- but the IC's alone are not there. Just the Zero's. I thought I asked him to include them long ago.
Anyhow, it aggregates sellers and might be useful.
 

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Re: Where to buy a RP2350 chip currently?
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2024, 07:30:48 pm »
In early September, I received an email from Raspberry Pi inviting me to register for sample kits. I did so. Subsequently, in October, I received another email indicating that a shipping note/advice had been sent to their warehouse for the following items:

RP235x Sample Kit
  • 10 x RP2350A
  • 10 x RP2350B
  • 20 x SRP2010DPA-3R3M
  • 20 x ABM8-272-T3
  • 20 x W25Q32RVXHJQ
As of now, I have not received any actual shipping notification.

Me too. I asked on the forum, and an engineer said the kits were going out "soon". Still hearing crickets...
 

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Re: Where to buy a RP2350 chip currently?
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2024, 07:48:34 pm »
Looks like they are late shipping anything indeed.

I suppose that all their partners selling dev boards currently (Sparkfun, Adafruit and a few others) have agreements for getting the MCUs in rather large quantities before everyone else. (The sample kits don't count.)
They may have depleted stocks entirely and now the RPi has none to fulfill the sample kits orders.That's possible.

Again I don't fully remember how it went for the RP2040. Yes the Pi Pico boards were available months before the chips were, but I don't remember if they had partners making alternative dev boards, back then, as they are now, also way before they made the chips available to everyone else.

The "interesting" part here is them having made the chips available in large quantities to a selected few and nobody else. I don't know if they did the same for the RP2040. Maybe so.

Certainly, giving away samples is pretty common practice. Giving away more samples to larger customers also is. But we're not talking about samples here, really, for those partners. They are selling products off of it, and a lot of them. Third-parties *selling* products off samples under their own umbrella is a rather odd practice IMHO. Just my 2 cents.
 

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Re: Where to buy a RP2350 chip currently?
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2024, 02:05:29 pm »
Well, I just got the notification of my sample kit [10 x RP2350A, 10 x RP2350B, 20 x SRP2010DPA-3R3M, 20 x ABM8- 272-T3, 20 x W25Q32RVXHJQ]
] shipping, so maybe things are starting to look up…
 

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Re: Where to buy a RP2350 chip currently?
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2024, 07:05:14 am »
I received the kit about a week ago.  I still don't see RP2350s at JLCPCB or LCSC.  Mouser and Digikey don't have them either. The RP folks are sticking to end-of-year.  But, I see all sorts of products shipping with the chips so somewhere there is a supply and RP folks won't tell me how they are getting them.  Probably a "friends and family" special deal. I have a design that I'm ready to go to manufacturing for a trial production run, kind of frustrating. At least I have the software up and running on an RP2350B using a pimoroni module.  Just add production hardware.  sigh...
 

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Re: Where to buy a RP2350 chip currently?
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2024, 01:52:01 am »
I received the kit about a week ago.  I still don't see RP2350s at JLCPCB or LCSC.  Mouser and Digikey don't have them either. The RP folks are sticking to end-of-year.  But, I see all sorts of products shipping with the chips so somewhere there is a supply and RP folks won't tell me how they are getting them.  Probably a "friends and family" special deal. I have a design that I'm ready to go to manufacturing for a trial production run, kind of frustrating. At least I have the software up and running on an RP2350B using a pimoroni module.  Just add production hardware.  sigh...

It's a kludge, but in situations like this, it is common to borrow a mcu or two from  eval module(s) to at least verify your production hardware.
 

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Re: Where to buy a RP2350 chip currently?
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2024, 01:53:39 am »
I received the kit about a week ago.  I still don't see RP2350s at JLCPCB or LCSC.  Mouser and Digikey don't have them either. The RP folks are sticking to end-of-year.  But, I see all sorts of products shipping with the chips so somewhere there is a supply and RP folks won't tell me how they are getting them.  Probably a "friends and family" special deal. I have a design that I'm ready to go to manufacturing for a trial production run, kind of frustrating. At least I have the software up and running on an RP2350B using a pimoroni module.  Just add production hardware.  sigh...

Probably sample runs for existing partners. For validation and design. Not uncommon but annoying that they aren't confirming they will fix the HW bugs with GPIO for a broader production release. Masks at 40nm aren't that expensive and the GPIO bug is major.
 

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Re: Where to buy a RP2350 chip currently?
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2024, 12:31:05 am »
Probably sample runs for existing partners. For validation and design. Not uncommon but annoying that they aren't confirming they will fix the HW bugs with GPIO for a broader production release. Masks at 40nm aren't that expensive and the GPIO bug is major.
What is the GPIO bug ?
 

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Re: Where to buy a RP2350 chip currently?
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2024, 01:20:13 am »
What is the GPIO bug ?

there was a bunch of discussion starting here
 


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