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golden_labels:

--- Quote from: ve7xen on December 30, 2021, 04:03:06 am ---If you operate an Internet service, you often have little control over the client, so you need / want to support the lowest common denominator. (…)
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You do realize, I hope, that websites is not the only thing on the internet? Likely not even a very significant part of all the traffic. Until that is rectified, I will avoid responding to the load balancing paragraph, as what you wrote there may arise from wrong assumptions.

ve7xen:

--- Quote from: golden_labels on December 31, 2021, 05:51:05 am ---
--- Quote from: ve7xen on December 30, 2021, 04:03:06 am ---If you operate an Internet service, you often have little control over the client, so you need / want to support the lowest common denominator. (…)
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You do realize, I hope, that websites is not the only thing on the internet? Likely not even a very significant part of all the traffic. Until that is rectified, I will avoid responding to the load balancing paragraph, as what you wrote there may arise from wrong assumptions.

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|O Clearly I do, since that is basically my argument. Browsers are relatively complex and featureful, reimplement most of the OS services from scratch, have a relatively rapid pace of development and deployment of new features...it's the opposite of the kind of thing I'm talking about. It's practically the only significant place where maybe (long shot) you could actually use such addresses in a reasonable amount of time, but most address consumers don't have the luxury of being web-only, which is pretty much my point. Browsers might even do fallback to multiple A records on failure already, similar to happy eyeballs, I don't actually know - but I do know that the average client application doesn't, because it doesn't come for free with the sockets library. My entire point is that the long tail is a problem that will prevent this proposal from ever gaining real traction.

I maintain my position that if you are an address space holder that already has real address space, there is negative value in adding a new semi-functional IP to your DNS reply set. Whatever your goal might be in doing so, there are better ways to achieve the same result in pretty much any case. It has slightly more use if you aren't actually an address holder, but then the people acquiring the addresses would be hosting companies who won't want to deal with the problems surrounding this. If your argument is that the long tail is the place where this is necessary and worth the trouble, it's not a very good argument and certainly not strong enough to support the major effort it would take to actually do it. And on the flipside, if your only argument is the long tail, you run into the serious meatspace issue of convincing the entire internet this needs to be done.

It's kind of hilarious this made it to the draft stage, to be honest, it's an absurd proposal.

mansaxel:

--- Quote from: ve7xen on December 31, 2021, 08:01:12 am ---
It's kind of hilarious this made it to the draft stage, to be honest, it's an absurd proposal.

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Anyone can submit a draft. And it, as Cerebus noted, will expire if there's no traction. 

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