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PKTKS:

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--- Quote from: MuseChaser on March 08, 2022, 12:02:19 pm ---Protonmail.com

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That was a nice addition...  :-+

Paul

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Dangerous. Single point of failure.

Be careful.

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yep  ::)  they are *ALL* a single point of problems...

Some decades  ::)  ago I was on both gmail and  http://safe-mail.net/ ..
Doing relay for my local servers..

for the sake of not going against the exponential uncle goog grw..
ditched the latter..

today I am considering yet again having redundant relays...
locally stuff is interfaced externally with Postfix but all internal goes QMail

DJB stuff is unbeatable

Paul  :-+

PKTKS:
2 more cents on this OAuth  nonsense saga...  :o

After dealing with a lot of this *** for a while..
it seems now obvious to me that it is arguably useless..
reason being:
- it does not add security whatsoever better than already done with SSL/TLS channels
- it really locks out a lot of external reliable tools for 3rd part competitors ..
- namely all stand alone relays like QMail Postfix .. sendmail.. fetchmail
- it is a total pain to setup a reliable server outside the scope of their intended business..
- and very limited security de facto is (if not a considerable insecurity arises)

Have  a deep  look at the scripts and patches for fetchmail devel 7.x
Postifx and fetchmail kludges available here

http://mmogilvi.users.sourceforge.net/software/oauthbearer.html

Cheers
Pauil

magic:
By the way, to access GMail with OAuth2 you will need a client ID issued by Google.

There are many tutorials how to generate your own, which I think is only valid for accessing the account that requested it without paying $$$ to Google. But if you don't want even the hassle of generating a free client ID valid for your own account, there is also an option to use a well known ID.

This one works :-DD
https://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/file/tip/mailnews/base/src/OAuth2Providers.jsm

Rick Law:

--- Quote from: PKTKS on April 18, 2022, 10:18:13 am ---2 more cents on this OAuth  nonsense saga...  :o

After dealing with a lot of this *** for a while..
it seems now obvious to me that it is arguably useless..
reason being:
- it does not add security whatsoever better than already done with SSL/TLS channels
- it really locks out a lot of external reliable tools for 3rd part competitors ..
- namely all stand alone relays like QMail Postfix .. sendmail.. fetchmail
- it is a total pain to setup a reliable server outside the scope of their intended business..
- and very limited security de facto is (if not a considerable insecurity arises)

Have  a deep  look at the scripts and patches for fetchmail devel 7.x
Postifx and fetchmail kludges available here

http://mmogilvi.users.sourceforge.net/software/oauthbearer.html

Cheers
Pauil

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[ RL: added underline to quoted text ]

I think that is their whole purpose of this exercise: lock out all 3rd party activities and channel everything you do to be within the google universe.

There was a saying (supposingly by Stern, the one NYU Business School is named after): "When you got the customers by the balls, their hearts and minds will folllow."

SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: Rick Law on July 20, 2022, 05:30:20 pm ---
--- Quote from: PKTKS on April 18, 2022, 10:18:13 am ---2 more cents on this OAuth  nonsense saga...  :o

After dealing with a lot of this *** for a while..
it seems now obvious to me that it is arguably useless..
reason being:
- it does not add security whatsoever better than already done with SSL/TLS channels
- it really locks out a lot of external reliable tools for 3rd part competitors ..
- namely all stand alone relays like QMail Postfix .. sendmail.. fetchmail
- it is a total pain to setup a reliable server outside the scope of their intended business..
- and very limited security de facto is (if not a considerable insecurity arises)

Have  a deep  look at the scripts and patches for fetchmail devel 7.x
Postifx and fetchmail kludges available here

http://mmogilvi.users.sourceforge.net/software/oauthbearer.html

Cheers
Pauil

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[ RL: added underline to quoted text ]

I think that is their whole purpose of this exercise: lock out all 3rd party activities and channel everything you do to be within the google universe.

There was a saying (supposingly by Stern, the one NYU Business School is named after): "When you got the customers by the balls, their hearts and minds will folllow."

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