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Re: [How to] Testing inline image attachments
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2023, 07:44:37 am »


But doing the
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width= on an image tag doesn't actually load smaller pictures... you're still creating a page full of large images that have to load, and just scaling them down in the browser after. If you look at the source of the above image it's clearly still loading the full sized version of the image.

Is this something anyone really cares about in the age of 5G and broadband?

Yes. I've previously posted that a page full of these kinds of images is very difficult to read because, when you get in at the end to see new posts, the arriving images cause the page to adjust and move everything else down. So the bit you're reading suddenly drops below the line as a big image arrives, you scroll down and then the page moves as another arrives, etc. There are threads that I would otherwise follow that I don't bother with because of this.

Doesn't matter if you have 1TBit magicnet your end if it's going around half the world to get there at snail pace.
 

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Re: [How to] Testing inline image attachments
« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2023, 09:07:02 am »
1993 :  128K bytes is a huge amount of memory

2023 :  128K is barely one percent of an Instagram post.

Compressing Images for upload and emailing is just good Neticate. Wow that's a word from the good old dial-up days. Just showing my age. Again.
 

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Re: [How to] Testing inline image attachments
« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2023, 01:13:28 pm »
I don't care how much memory an image takes - that's a behind-the-scenes thing of no relevance. What I do care about is how long I have to wait for it to appear, and whether it is in-your-face because the posted thinks it must dominate my view, or is illustrative and enlargeable if I wish to see it better.

As noted above, plonking the full thing in the text fails both of those. Specifying some 'sensible' size also fails since you don't know the size of my browser window. Just use the thumbnail and if I need to see it better I can click on it, otherwise it's nicely out of the way and not detracting from the text.

There are exceptions, but most inline images don't qualify.
 

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Re: [How to] Testing inline image attachments
« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2023, 10:02:19 am »
You don't need to upload and add anything to any Windows computer to EASILY change the size of an image. Just open it in Microsoft Paint, which is included in every version of Windows in the past 15 or 20 years, and use the Resize command. You can change the size in pixels or just as a percentage. I use it all the time to change images to 800 pixels wide before uploading them to this or other BBs. But I can see reason to use a larger width for images where resolution counts, such as photos of PCBs or very complicated schematics. Some images can be even smaller than 800 pixels wide and still convey their meaning.

Edit: I rather doubt that any addition to the BB software is going to increase the size of an image as I upload it. I see smaller images on this BB all the time. They obviously were not increased in size. So, out of politeness, I will continue to resize my images before uploading them. I do understand the bandwidth problems for some here and I hope that helps.

You can also use Paint to trim off any unimportant parts, like extra white space - or blue or red or whatever color.

Paint.net, which is a free download, is good for "Photoshop" type corrections when they are needed. Things like the color balance or bringing details out of shadows with the curve corrections.



I always resize and compress images before I upload them.

I have found the best free tool for this job is Microsoft Office Picture Manager. I install it on all my computers.

Details on how to install it here:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/office/where-is-picture-manager-58837c3e-34db-4904-95e8-4eca7b7c5730
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Re: [How to] Testing inline image attachments
« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2023, 10:21:42 am »
After spending literally hours trying to get images to appear in the text of my posts (I will try to limit that as much as possible in deference to those with speed and bandwidth problems) and discovering on my own most of what is described here, I finally found this thread.

I would like to suggest to the powers to be that a link to this thread be placed where it can be seen when I and OTHERS are trying to upload photos. To me, THAT would be very helpful. It would have saved me actual HOURS of trial and error.

I will try to call attention to this.
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And if you look REAL close at an analog signal,
You will find that it has discrete steps.
 

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Re: [How to] Testing inline image attachments
« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2023, 11:16:05 am »
After spending literally hours trying to get images to appear in the text of my posts (I will try to limit that as much as possible in deference to those with speed and bandwidth problems) and discovering on my own most of what is described here, I finally found this thread.

I would like to suggest to the powers to be that a link to this thread be placed where it can be seen when I and OTHERS are trying to upload photos. To me, THAT would be very helpful. It would have saved me actual HOURS of trial and error.

I will try to call attention to this.

The intent is to fix this problem however it took a back burner due to other more pressing issues. I will try to give it some attention in the next week or two depending on my availability.
 
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Re: [How to] Testing inline image attachments
« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2023, 02:03:38 am »
This has been fixed, inline images are working again finally.

« Last Edit: October 12, 2023, 02:05:52 am by gnif »
 
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Re: [How to] Testing inline image attachments
« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2023, 03:12:12 am »
So what's the official process now?  Does the inline tag actually work when you upload an image or do you need to do something else to get it to show up?

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Note:  Selecting "inline expandable thumbnail" put the [ attach=1] tag in and the image showed up there.  Interesting.

Question.. is it possible to resize that inline thumbnail or is it just what it is?
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Re: [How to] Testing inline image attachments
« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2023, 03:14:10 am »
There is no "official process", the broken feature has just been fixed. Obviously you figured it out with your test test image ;)

Question.. is it possible to resize that inline thumbnail or is it just what it is?

It is what it is, allowing people to adjust this would create a huge amount of thumbnail files on the server and could be abused.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2023, 03:21:05 am by gnif »
 

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Re: [How to] Testing inline image attachments
« Reply #34 on: October 12, 2023, 03:29:48 am »
This has been fixed, inline images are working again finally.

Ah, that's cool. The first post of this thread is now displayed correctly!  :)
 

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Re: [How to] Testing inline image attachments
« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2023, 04:59:41 am »
OMG, it really does, even my old posts are rendering as intended now :-+
 

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Re: [How to] Testing inline image attachments
« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2023, 10:02:44 pm »
This has been fixed, inline images are working again finally.

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Kind of. If one clicks the thumbnail the original image opens in a new page. The previous version of this expanded the thumbnail in place, which was a bit more user friendly. Still, it's better than people posting the full 4K res PNG as a pretend thumbnail :)

Edit: and quoted attachments don't work -the image in the above quote is shown as a link, but clicking the link just hangs until timeout.

Edit2: Thumbnails below the line expand normally. It's just the inline thumbnails that open a new page.
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Re: [How to] Testing inline image attachments
« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2023, 10:53:05 pm »
For me, I find it useful to include moderately sized and scaled images inline with the text, like the one below, rather than thumbnails. Then there is no need to click each thumbnail in order to view it.

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Re: [How to] Testing inline image attachments
« Reply #38 on: October 12, 2023, 11:37:31 pm »
But that defeats the point of having the thumbnail in the first place. 'Moderately sized' is dependant on many things that you don't know about, and may be small for some or huge for others. Thumbnails resolves that.
 

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Re: [How to] Testing inline image attachments
« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2023, 02:42:17 am »
Let me check it.



Inline full-size image, let's see.

* doesn't work on "Preview"

* but it's working on this post, not too bad
 

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Re: [How to] Testing inline image attachments
« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2023, 03:03:59 am »
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Inline full-size image, let's see.
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Ya, but if you can't resize the inline image.. that sucks...
Sticking the hack... https://www.eevblog.com/forum/news/(how-to)-testing-inline-image-attachments/msg5021542/#msg5021542
 

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Re: [How to] Testing inline image attachments
« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2023, 03:06:26 am »
Ya, but if you can't resize the inline image.. that sucks...

You can adjust the display size of the inline image like this:

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[attachimg=1 width=400]
 

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Re: [How to] Testing inline image attachments
« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2023, 06:51:44 am »
Ya, but if you can't resize the inline image.. that sucks...

You can adjust the display size of the inline image like this:

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[attachimg=1 width=400]

Does that actually work?
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Update:
HA!  that does work.  Ianb is my new personal hero.  Problem solved. 
Thanks gnif!
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Re: [How to] Testing inline image attachments
« Reply #43 on: October 16, 2023, 12:30:46 am »
There is some funny business going on with the inline image in this post:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/what-did-you-buy-today-post-your-latest-purchase!/msg5106000/#msg5106000

Note:  links to that thread get broken because of the "!"
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Re: [How to] Testing inline image attachments
« Reply #44 on: November 29, 2023, 02:39:58 am »
Now we just need to publish the [ Attachment Invalid Or Does Not Exist ] as part of the "static" help text (or in a link that opens in a new tab) when authoring/modifying a post, so posters/commenters know how to use the feature. I guess that is not a trivial task to hack into this antiquated forum software.
 

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Re: [How to] Testing inline image attachments
« Reply #46 on: December 26, 2023, 05:52:27 pm »
Just use the forum facilities instead of reinventing another mousetrap.

A bonus is the image will still show when your cheap image sharing website bites the dust through lack of income/users/competence.
 

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Re: [How to] Testing inline image attachments
« Reply #47 on: February 15, 2024, 05:00:14 pm »
test
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Re: [How to] Testing inline image attachments
« Reply #48 on: February 15, 2024, 05:06:09 pm »
Beware that 'Inline expandable thumbnail' when clicked it will open maximized in a new tab, which is very annoying.

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Re: [How to] Testing inline image attachments
« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2024, 02:03:33 pm »
testing images, don't mind me.

sorry for spamming images dave-

wtf that was weird, and dumb, some images dont work properly with end-of-post expandable thumbnail
had to convert it to png instead of saving it as png (from webp)
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