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Offline wraper

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Re: Dave, seen this? Grid overvoltage story in the Guardian
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2024, 02:42:18 pm »
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Half of those are not even temperature controlled.
Yes, they are. The only one of those that isn’t temperature controlled is the toaster — but the user will have to toast for longer to get the color they want. Similarly, if someone is using an old-fashioned hair dryer without temperature control, they’ll need to run it for longer.
Barely any hair driers are temperature controlled. Many space heaters are not temperature controlled.
 

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Re: Dave, seen this? Grid overvoltage story in the Guardian
« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2024, 05:23:12 am »
They don't have thermostats but the humans using them will end up using them for longer as they will take longer to get the job done (be it get hair dry or heat up a room).

Also most hairdriers have multiple heat settings, so you can use your hairdrier at reduced power whenever you like with a flick of a switch rather than changing the whole line voltage.

Tho that being said most cheap vacuum cleaners are horrendously inefficient, mostly thanks to them being traditionally advertised in watts. So what the manufacturer ends up doing is specifying a inefficient loose tolerance impeller (wider tolerance = cheaper to make) that overloads the motor into pulling as much power as possible while also using as thin of a wire as possible on the windings to burn some more watts, then use the immense amount of airflow that a vaccum cleaner produces to blow across the motor and get the heat out so that it doesn't overheat, hence the air blowing out of a vaccum cleaner is really hot, most of that looses. So over here they introduced a law that limits consumer vacuum cleaners to 900W to stop the watts pissing contest (especially here where you can pull 3kW from a normal wall outlet).
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Re: Dave, seen this? Grid overvoltage story in the Guardian
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2024, 07:16:04 am »
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Half of those are not even temperature controlled.
Yes, they are. The only one of those that isn’t temperature controlled is the toaster — but the user will have to toast for longer to get the color they want. Similarly, if someone is using an old-fashioned hair dryer without temperature control, they’ll need to run it for longer.
Barely any hair driers are temperature controlled. Many space heaters are not temperature controlled.
Perhaps I am biased due to which models are sold in the two countries I spend the most time in (Switzerland and USA), but I have rarely ever seen a space heater without a thermostat, and hair dryers now commonly have thermostatic control. And even the models without true thermostatic control still use some mechanism (either a bimetallic strip or a sensor) to limit the maximum temperature — in addition to the thermal fuse to prevent fires if the airflow is blocked or the fan seizes while unattended.
 


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