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Crazy the amount of swearing in this forum
« on: October 18, 2022, 01:13:47 pm »
First time last week checking out this forum, and it's sad to see the amount of swearing in here.
Swearing shows a lack of self-discipline. It also shows a lack of respect for other people - especially if they are strangers.
When did it become the norm for people to use such language because they can't think of a better word.  It's part of the reason this whole world is in the crapper.

Even worse when the moderator does not enforce the rules.
 


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Re: Crazy the amount of swearing in this forum
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2022, 01:26:09 pm »
  Dammed right!
 

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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2022, 01:35:43 pm »
It's a bit of everything.
Things showing a full lack of respect, laziness and zero fcks given:

- Not to use the search in first place, instead simply ask the same thing 184748 times. Use the damn search.

- Ask something, make people spend its time at you, and just disappear afterwards. At least show a little of gratitute  to your F** free helpers, how about thanks?

- Messages like "not compiling", "circuit not working", "what's this component", providing no code, no pictures, or a terrible fuzzy image. Take the same effort back.

Otherwise I f***ng swear the forum is actually a pretty nice place.

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Re: Crazy the amount of swearing in this forum
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2022, 02:02:26 pm »
First time last week checking out this forum, and it's sad to see the amount of swearing in here.
Swearing shows a lack of self-discipline. It also shows a lack of respect for other people - especially if they are strangers.
When did it become the norm for people to use such language because they can't think of a better word.  It's part of the reason this whole world is in the crapper.

Even worse when the moderator does not enforce the rules.

The fact that the moderators do not have to step in very often shows that the members have a lot of self-discipline. I have been on this forum for over a year and a half now and I like it very much. Not like any other forums where people are at each others throats. Sure there is a bit of foul language now and then, but who gives a f___ when it is just a bit of harmless scuffle between some members. When it gets out of hand there is always another member who cools things down or calls in the cavalry >:D

And when you don't like it, there is no one forcing you to read it or even to join this forum.

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Re: Crazy the amount of swearing in this forum
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2022, 02:06:09 pm »
When did it become the norm for people to use such language because they can't think of a better word.  It's part of the reason this whole world is in the crapper.

Seems pretty low to me. I don't mind swearing though, I do it all the time.  :)

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Even worse when the moderator does not enforce the rules.

As I recall from past days the SMF software allows the Admin to set up automatic substitutions for words to be "censored", so

shit

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s**t

something like that. Guess they like it the way it is.  ;D
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Re: Crazy the amount of swearing in this forum
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2022, 02:06:38 pm »
First time last week checking out this forum, and it's sad to see the amount of swearing in here.
Swearing shows a lack of self-discipline. It also shows a lack of respect for other people - especially if they are strangers.
When did it become the norm for people to use such language because they can't think of a better word.  It's part of the reason this whole world is in the crapper.

why do you care, does it hurt your eyes to read a swear word?  and swearing has absolutely zero impact on the state of the world

Even worse when the moderator does not enforce the rules.

what rule says you can't swear?
 
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Re: Crazy the amount of swearing in this forum
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2022, 02:08:20 pm »
... I don't mind swearing though, I do it all the time.  :)

 :wtf: Only when something goes wrong :-DD

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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2022, 02:11:53 pm »
... I don't mind swearing though, I do it all the time.  :)

 :wtf: Only when something goes wrong :-DD

And for me - that's a lot of swearing!  :-DD
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Re: Crazy the amount of swearing in this forum
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2022, 02:26:27 pm »
the current generation graduates college without learning how to write business communications or common courtesy.

No Respect for others and lack of consideration and!or no basic hygiène is the rule.

I recieve serious notes opening with "hey Jon...."   


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Re: Crazy the amount of swearing in this forum
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2022, 03:18:02 pm »
Surely the OP is a SPAM BOT?

A total of 2 posts on this forum, recently joined.  Presumably the other post they made, is copied from another electronics forum's opening thread starter question, randomly picked up, by scanning the internet.

Anyway, what bad language?

I don't seem to be seeing much or any, very recently.
 
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« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2022, 03:20:39 pm »
Please don't start talking like lawyers, I'll have to work twice as hard to compensate.
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Re: Crazy the amount of swearing in this forum
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2022, 03:26:39 pm »
Anyway, what bad language?

I don't seem to be seeing much or any, very recently.

Look at the first couple of posts here for some examples :-DD

But you are right, it ain't bad and maybe it is a bot. Nobody was interested in responding to its other post.

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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2022, 03:40:30 pm »
Did you seriously sign up here just to complain about swearing? I'm not aware of any rule against swearing, I try not to do it gratuitously but swearing has it's uses and you're the first one here I've seen complain about it. I have not noticed a particularly large amount of swearing here, certainly I hear more of it in day to day life than on this forum.
 

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« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2022, 04:17:55 pm »
Anyway, what bad language?

I don't seem to be seeing much or any, very recently.

Look at the first couple of posts here for some examples :-DD

But you are right, it ain't bad and maybe it is a bot. Nobody was interested in responding to its other post.

I didn't count any bad words in this thread, as any bad words, should already exist in the forum, otherwise their complaint(s), would be bogus.
But their opening post (OP), has contradiction(s).  If it was written by a significantly polite, and hence non-swearing person.  I suspect they wouldn't have used the RUDE/BAD word themselves, in that post.
I'm somewhat too polite to repeat or quote it here.  Hint: 'World is in ..' .
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« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2022, 04:38:06 pm »
But their opening post (OP), has contradiction(s).  If it was written by a significantly polite, and hence non-swearing person.  I suspect they wouldn't have used the RUDE/BAD word themselves, in that post.
I'm somewhat too polite to repeat or quote it here.  Hint: 'World is in ..' .

Yeah, I had noticed that one too :palm:

But maybe that is a normal word where the OP comes from :-DD

It all depends on your upbringing on what you consider to be a swear word.

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« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2022, 05:59:05 pm »
 :wtf:

I don't usually swear and usually try to behave with proper respect etc. But swear words don't have some hidden magic meaning so that if you say them enough times, they will trigger a war or something, or the other person will fall dead. Language and words in themselves are just nonsense sounds if they don't have a will and meaning behind, such as a person with real intent and actions that will be taken. On the Internet, words tend to be overused or lose their meaning, because you can't see and hear the other person and decode his intentions from body language. In real life, I will probably become somewhat offended, sad or react in some way if a person swears _at_ me and there is some real meaning behind it. On the Internet? Come on  :palm:

And if you get offended by only reading some random words, not particularly aimed at you, I suggest to adjust your interpretation of those words, so that you get less offended, or not at all. This will make you a happier person.
 
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« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2022, 06:12:53 pm »
I recieve serious notes opening with "hey Jon...."   

This is the norm in the US.

I generally tend to write informally unless I'm writing a nastygram or a letter to an authority. For peers, business partners, etc it's always "Hi X."
 
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« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2022, 07:49:10 pm »
I recieve serious notes opening with "hey Jon...."   

This is the norm in the US.

I generally tend to write informally unless I'm writing a nastygram or a letter to an authority. For peers, business partners, etc it's always "Hi X."

Yes this is the normal way people communicate in the companies I've worked for in my career. Anything more formal than that is reserved for upper management, lawyers and the like and using it in general business communication would be like wearing a tuxedo to the grocery store.
 

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Re: Crazy the amount of swearing in this forum
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2022, 08:20:08 pm »
Actually, engineers have to swear when working with trademen. Especially in rougher industries.
It's like a tribal code, if you don't swear then that's proof you are an office dweller, pencil pusher, dork and the tradesmen will fuck with you for fun - i.e. tease/hazing/razz and i.e. do wiring wrong as you "vaguely specified" for another laugh. It's part of the white/blue collar battle, experienced every time I'm out in the field.
But switching it off when in the office, one company I worked for saying the word "shit" caused a female engineer to cry reeeee. My manager/HR wrote me up for using the word :-DD
 

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« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2022, 08:21:03 pm »
Even worse when the moderator does not enforce the rules.

We have better things to do than filter the internet for a few harmless swear words. In many cultures, curse words are actually used in both a positive and negative context, or to emphasise a point, rather than to cause offence. It's all about context. In law enforcement "pretty please can you get into these handcuffs" just doesn't cut it (I know that's an extreme example, but my point is scalable).

I really couldn't give a shit if people swear or not, as long as it's not malicious and being abusive towards others.

Everyone has different standards, such is life.
 
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« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2022, 09:47:38 pm »
Even worse when the moderator does not enforce the rules.

What Halcyon said.
If someone was swearing like a drunken sailor in every single post then we might take some action, but otherwise this forum is pretty tame when it comes to that.
The number of moderator reports for just swearing I could probably count on the one hand over the last decade.
Perhaps you'd like to link to the worst examples instead of just making a blanket statement?
 

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« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2022, 10:18:26 pm »
I'm a potty mouth from way back. I particularly enjoy profanity when used creatively.

I've noticed over the past couple of years, fewer people are holding back. The sudden F bomb isn't as surprising as the fact that the person finally said it.
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« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2022, 10:31:30 pm »
one company I worked for saying the word "shit" caused a female engineer to cry reeeee.
Let me guess, cheap glass department?
I can't handle that type of people, reacting like baby tasting lemon for their very first time, or accidentally entering the wrong hole in the night :-DD, OMG this,OMG that, cardboard mental strength.
Sorry for their partners, must be terrible to not be able to be human and just have a bad day.
Had a girl like that, couldn't take my 20 minutes relaxing after a tought day, so I had no right to feel tired, "work stuff keeps at work", ok could...could you just let me watch some shit and laugh for 10 minutes to relax? So I can forget all that terrible swearing I saw on a Forum?  :-DD
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« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2022, 10:38:42 pm »
I've yet to see a decent Malcolm Tucker on this forum.

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Was it really supposed to do that?
 

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« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2022, 11:14:44 pm »
I didn't count any bad words in this thread, as any bad words, should already exist in the forum, otherwise their complaint(s), would be bogus.
But their opening post (OP), has contradiction(s).  If it was written by a significantly polite, and hence non-swearing person.  I suspect they wouldn't have used the RUDE/BAD word themselves, in that post.
I'm somewhat too polite to repeat or quote it here.  Hint: 'World is in ..' .
What RUDE/BAD word?   Thomas Crapper, a notable British plumber from the Victorian to Edwardian eras popularized the flushing toilet to the point his name was commonly used eponymously for it. 

Although sanitation engineering is seldom on topic here, there have been a few topics that touched on the subject, mostly to do with the difficulties of sensing so-called 'black' water levels reliably in an extremely aggressive corrosive environment with high concentrations of solids in suspension.

TLDR: S--t happens and engineers have to deal with it!
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« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2022, 11:34:10 pm »
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I keep count and put 10 cents in a jar for every 1000.   :bullshit:

I think swearing in the context of a post to enhance a statement is fine, but I don't think it should ever be used in the title of a thread, well sparingly anyway. In fact I once reported a thread which I felt had crossed the line and raised concerns that if the thread became popular then that profanity would be plastered all over the recent posts table on the landing page for all to see including guests, the moderator changed the thread title.
 :phew:
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« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2022, 11:57:12 pm »
I didn't count any bad words in this thread, as any bad words, should already exist in the forum, otherwise their complaint(s), would be bogus.
But their opening post (OP), has contradiction(s).  If it was written by a significantly polite, and hence non-swearing person.  I suspect they wouldn't have used the RUDE/BAD word themselves, in that post.
I'm somewhat too polite to repeat or quote it here.  Hint: 'World is in ..' .
What RUDE/BAD word?   Thomas Crapper, a notable British plumber from the Victorian to Edwardian eras popularized the flushing toilet to the point his name was commonly used eponymously for it. 

Although sanitation engineering is seldom on topic here, there have been a few topics that touched on the subject, mostly to do with the difficulties of sensing so-called 'black' water levels reliably in an extremely aggressive corrosive environment with high concentrations of solids in suspension.

TLDR: S--t happens and engineers have to deal with it!

Nah! They arrange to be "somewhere else", & Techs have to deal with it!
 

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« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2022, 12:03:24 am »
I'm a potty mouth from way back. I particularly enjoy profanity when used creatively.

I've noticed over the past couple of years, fewer people are holding back. The sudden F bomb isn't as surprising as the fact that the person finally said it.

One of the places I worked the CEO would frequently drop F bombs while presenting to the company. Personally I thought that was very unprofessional and it isn't something I would do in that position but it doesn't bother me at all when people around me curse. If it's used too heavily it wears out and loses its impact as well as makes the speaker sound like an idiot but here and there, who cares.
 
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« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2022, 12:38:50 am »
I didn't count any bad words in this thread, as any bad words, should already exist in the forum, otherwise their complaint(s), would be bogus.
But their opening post (OP), has contradiction(s).  If it was written by a significantly polite, and hence non-swearing person.  I suspect they wouldn't have used the RUDE/BAD word themselves, in that post.
I'm somewhat too polite to repeat or quote it here.  Hint: 'World is in ..' .
What RUDE/BAD word?   Thomas Crapper, a notable British plumber from the Victorian to Edwardian eras popularized the flushing toilet to the point his name was commonly used eponymously for it. 

Although sanitation engineering is seldom on topic here, there have been a few topics that touched on the subject, mostly to do with the difficulties of sensing so-called 'black' water levels reliably in an extremely aggressive corrosive environment with high concentrations of solids in suspension.

TLDR: S--t happens and engineers have to deal with it!

The perception, as to what is or is not acceptable language, varies, between different, countries, regions/districts, classes, occupations etc.  Also, it depends where you are and who you are speaking to.
For example, I wouldn't be surprised to hear a prisoner swear.  But would be, if they were a top doctor, while on duty at a large hospital.

E.g. If someone had a past engagement with the (late) British Queen, would they be happy to say such words, to a large audience, including the Queen?
I don't think I would.  Unless it was a very critical part of the speech, spoken with great care, and still probably NOT said in practice.
 

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« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2022, 01:58:28 am »
I look forward to the official wrongspeak word list. All unacceptable words, let's see that list from the school/corporation/HR/forums etc.
Because I can't keep up. Swear words I used 20 years ago are apparently horrifying to Gen Z.
 
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« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2022, 02:12:56 am »
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I keep count and put 10 cents in a jar for every 1000.   :bullshit:

I think swearing in the context of a post to enhance a statement is fine, but I don't think it should ever be used in the title of a thread, well sparingly anyway. In fact I once reported a thread which I felt had crossed the line and raised concerns that if the thread became popular then that profanity would be plastered all over the recent posts table on the landing page for all to see including guests, the moderator changed the thread title.
 :phew:

Then the lines begin to get blurred. i.e.: What constitutes a "swear"? To me (and most other Aussies) "bullshit" isn't a swear word. But to some it is.

I have friends who use the phrase "'sup cunt?" which is usually used among friends to say "How are you doing?", as opposed to say "oh that cunt!" (negative context). Sure, your grandma probably won't like it, but that's how it is.

Despite the use of such "strong language", it's not as if every second word is a swear. Quality over quantity I say.

I look forward to the official wrongspeak word list. All unacceptable words, let's see that list from the school/corporation/HR/forums etc.
Because I can't keep up. Swear words I used 20 years ago are apparently horrifying to Gen Z.

Fuck that shit! Not going to happen.  ;)
 

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« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2022, 02:16:24 am »
In fact, we have a saying in Government: "Chuck it in the 'fuck it' bucket".
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« Reply #34 on: October 19, 2022, 02:31:03 am »
I look forward to the official wrongspeak word list. All unacceptable words, let's see that list from the school/corporation/HR/forums etc.
Because I can't keep up. Swear words I used 20 years ago are apparently horrifying to Gen Z.

The ones that bother me are the non-swear words that have seemingly become worse than swear words thanks to the euphemism treadmill. It's such an illogical concept to me to stop using a word every time it becomes offensive and switch to something else that quickly becomes just as offensive. It stems from people not grasping the concept that words are merely vehicles for a message, and that message payload can be on absolutely any word. The message is what matters, not the word. Then you have people arguing that what matters is how someone else interprets what is said rather than what the person actually said, and that of course is something nobody can ever control.
 
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« Reply #35 on: October 19, 2022, 03:57:13 am »
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Then the lines begin to get blurred. i.e.: What constitutes a "swear"? To me (and most other Aussies) "bullshit" isn't a swear word. But to some it is.

I can't remember exactly which thread it was now but in that instance the title included a "C" word. You were in fact the moderator who addressed the concern but I have since deleted the private messages.

Just on the subject of bullshit, I rang Energy Australia the other day to again complain about the sms reminder messages and other annoying notifications they keep sending, I used the term "bullshit" during the conversation and received a five minute pre-rehearsed rant about offensive language, FFS!

I have previously lodged two separate complaints with the ACMA about Energy Australia sending these bullshit notifications and they assured me it would never happen again, fucking wankers.

 
 

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« Reply #36 on: October 19, 2022, 04:37:31 am »
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Then the lines begin to get blurred. i.e.: What constitutes a "swear"? To me (and most other Aussies) "bullshit" isn't a swear word. But to some it is.

I can't remember exactly which thread it was now but in that instance the title included a "C" word. You were in fact the moderator who addressed the concern but I have since deleted the private messages.

Just on the subject of bullshit, I rang Energy Australia the other day to again complain about the sms reminder messages and other annoying notifications they keep sending, I used the term "bullshit" during the conversation and received a five minute pre-rehearsed rant about offensive language, FFS!

I have previously lodged two separate complaints with the ACMA about Energy Australia sending these bullshit notifications and they assured me it would never happen again, fucking wankers.

Oh, yeah. That's a old (bullshit) tactic used by call centres to fob you off. They infuriate you in the hope you'll snap and curse. They then say they won't deal with abusive customers-- click!

I know it's hard and I'm the worst one for giving advice not to be bellowing at them, but you have keep calmly reiterating your point. When they cannot help you they are forced to escalate to someone who can. You've just got to motivate them to do it. Sucks.
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« Reply #37 on: October 19, 2022, 11:17:55 am »
Just on the subject of bullshit, I rang Energy Australia the other day to again complain about the sms reminder messages and other annoying notifications they keep sending, I used the term "bullshit" during the conversation and received a five minute pre-rehearsed rant about offensive language, FFS!

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« Reply #38 on: October 19, 2022, 11:30:04 am »
Just on the subject of bullshit, I rang Energy Australia the other day to again complain about the sms reminder messages and other annoying notifications they keep sending, I used the term "bullshit" during the conversation and received a five minute pre-rehearsed rant about offensive language, FFS!

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I wonder if that's a button that the employee has been instructed to press upon hearing a list of keywords, or if it's automated voice detection?

The exception is I bet Optus have their one turned off.
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« Reply #39 on: October 19, 2022, 11:40:20 am »
I was brought up to be polite and not use the serious swear words. I was told that swearing showed a lack of communications skills, BUT, whilst that might apply in polite social gatherings, having been in the engineering environment all my working life, I can honestly say that swearing in one form or another is so common that if such offends a person, they need to find a new role in life as engineering is clearly not suited to them  ;D

I have a pretty good mental filter on swear words and tend to ignore them now. I have heard most english language swear words and provided they are not being directed at me, I take no offence. That said, the C word is still an unpleasant one to find in conversation but the F word is so common as to not even catch me eye. I use it in the working world, usually when something has gone badly wrong ! I do not use it in front of my Wife, or if one slips out, I apologise. That is out of respect for her.

Now for a blatantly misogynistic comment from me ..... I am saddened when I hear women using the serious and more unpleasant swear words, especially in normal conversation where such is not really needed. I have always had the greatest respect for women and serious swearing just does not become them as the fairer sex.

The problem with using the more unpleasant swear word on a public forum is that many young eyes read these forums and some parents may not like them reading forums with a lot of foul language. It would be a pity to lose any younger forum members as a result of parental intervention. That said, many youngsters could likely teach me a few highly unpleasant swear words these days  ;D I do not find this forum to be an environment in which serious swearing is common and that is great for everyone.

At the end of the day, words are not physical and do not harm anyone, it is the intent behind their use that does the harm. Communication is complex and takes many forms, some not so pleasant, swearing is as old as the hills !

When living in Australia I used to be amused and amazed at the swearing and abuse present in the Australian parliament sessions. I heard that the only word you could not call your political opponent was a "Mongrel" :-DD Not sure if that is actually true, or whether it was just my local Australian engineer friend pulling my leg ! The English parliament is far more restrained and boring to watch ! Note that I lived in Australia (Darwin) from 1989 to 1992 so things may have been a bit different back then  ;D

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« Reply #40 on: October 19, 2022, 11:53:47 am »
Talking of swearing.... I have seen plenty fault dockets with disguised swearing on them to describe a units condition ....

FUBAR
Bu**ered
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In most cases, such fault descriptions helped little in understanding what the fault symptoms actually were and annoyed many of us techs in the base workshops who then had to test kit to determine why it was on our repair bench.

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« Reply #41 on: October 19, 2022, 11:59:45 am »
Talking of swearing.... I have seen plenty fault dockets with disguised swearing on them to describe a units condition ....

NFG is one I get often.
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« Reply #42 on: October 19, 2022, 12:00:48 pm »
Just on the subject of bullshit, I rang Energy Australia the other day to again complain about the sms reminder messages and other annoying notifications they keep sending, I used the term "bullshit" during the conversation and received a five minute pre-rehearsed rant about offensive language, FFS!

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Is the Australian list short or long? :)

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« Reply #43 on: October 19, 2022, 12:13:41 pm »
It is not an expertise of mine, but you can tear someone a new one with normal words and have it hurt way more then with swear words.

Raised in the bad parts of The Hague I'm no stranger to the Dutch nor a lot of the English swear words, and have used them plenty a times when the situation called for them. Some people only understand your point when made with swear words. And when I hurt myself while doing something you can bet your ass that there will be harsh words flying around :-DD

I do try to refrain from them here on the forum though, because there is no need for it. But at times for a bit of a laugh it does not hurt.

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« Reply #44 on: October 19, 2022, 12:28:09 pm »
The ones that bother me are the non-swear words that have seemingly become worse than swear words thanks to the euphemism treadmill.
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« Reply #46 on: October 19, 2022, 02:14:34 pm »
Amazing how whats classed as offensive here in the uk has changed in such a relatively short time,50 years ago you would rarely hear bloody or bugger on telly and fuck would result in a stream  of complaints,even goolies and cobblers was a bit edgy but  coon  and sambo was acceptable and in common use
 
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« Reply #47 on: October 19, 2022, 02:56:44 pm »
Amazing how whats classed as offensive here in the uk has changed in such a relatively short time,50 years ago you would rarely hear bloody or bugger on telly and fuck would result in a stream  of complaints,even goolies and cobblers was a bit edgy but  coon  and sambo was acceptable and in common use

Yes, things like that have changed a lot.  I wonder how different things will be, in another fifty years, from now.

EDIT: Unfortunately, I wonder if (in 50 years time), we will be so tightly watched/managed by AI chips all over the place.  They could have laws, which mean if we swear at someone, we automatically get fined, perhaps £50 (so, forgot about current inflation rates £50,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000), or 50 good citizen points.
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« Reply #48 on: October 19, 2022, 03:00:32 pm »
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Even some normal UK road name
we did have a gropecunt lane here,but the puritans got a bit wobbly and insisted it got renamed.How long before the twatts  in Orkney get relocated?
 
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Even some normal UK road name
we did have a gropecunt lane here,but the puritans got a bit wobbly and insisted it got renamed.How long before the twatts  in Orkney get relocated?

I rewrote (removed old one) the post, because I thought it was a bit too contentious/political etc.  The risk would be, that some others might take offense at it.

On some long journeys, I see some surprising names, a bit like that.  I think the (old) top gear film crew, on driving through such villages.  Would stop there, film it and Jeremy Clarkson would make fun/jokes of the name, in his classic style.
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« Reply #50 on: October 19, 2022, 03:28:30 pm »
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no need for long journeys, blue balls is only 15 minutes from intercourse

Some funny ones via this link:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-58229967

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Seemed to be so according to wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugging,_Upper_Austria


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« Reply #53 on: October 19, 2022, 04:12:19 pm »
Anyone remember Sylvester Stallone in Demoliition Man ? In that proposed future, swearing gets punished by what appears to be some sort of Alexa device that is always listening for unacceptable words  ;D You get a language violation ticket and if you keep swearing, it calls the Police on you !

Take a look at a collection of examples from the film here :

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« Reply #54 on: October 19, 2022, 04:39:07 pm »
The problem with using the more unpleasant swear word on a public forum is that many young eyes read these forums and some parents may not like them reading forums with a lot of foul language. It would be a pity to lose any younger forum members as a result of parental intervention. That said, many youngsters could likely teach me a few highly unpleasant swear words these days  ;D I do not find this forum to be an environment in which serious swearing is common and that is great for everyone.

In my experience, the kids these days use more swear words than us older farts. Certainly you'd likely hear more swearing in the halls of a highschool than on this forum.
 
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« Reply #56 on: October 19, 2022, 05:02:36 pm »
Oh pretty, pretty please, don't have any bans on bad words. This forum is one of the few places on the Internet where one can say what they likes with very little censorship. Social media is so woke, with censorship, it's beyond the joke.
 

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« Reply #57 on: October 19, 2022, 05:08:38 pm »
At the end of the day, words are not physical and do not harm anyone, it is the intent behind their use that does the harm. Communication is complex and takes many forms, some not so pleasant, swearing is as old as the hills !

Just so.

I occasionally told my daughter that it was perfectly possible to use her name as a swear word. All it needs is intent, emotion, and intonation!
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« Reply #59 on: October 19, 2022, 06:19:42 pm »
Swearing isn't as offensive as it used to be. Society changes. Old newspapers wouldn't print the f-word, but wouldn't have a problem with racial slurs such as paki and coon. Nowadays they will happily print cunt and fuck, but not p-word and c**n.
 

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« Reply #60 on: October 19, 2022, 06:26:40 pm »
And with all the abbreviations due to sms and other texting you can do it much faster. MFWTFPCAH and so on. 5 swear words or phrases in 9 letters  :-DD

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« Reply #61 on: October 19, 2022, 08:53:48 pm »
NFG is one I get often.

I once worked for a company where the tech staff used NFG for fault markings.
Then one day all the executives got company cars. They all arrived with the number plates starting with NFG...
Was it really supposed to do that?
 
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« Reply #62 on: October 19, 2022, 09:21:07 pm »
NFG is one I get often.

I once worked for a company where the tech staff used NFG for fault markings.
Then one day all the executives got company cars. They all arrived with the number plates starting with NFG...

Ford or Volkswagen?   :horse:

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« Reply #63 on: October 19, 2022, 09:23:09 pm »
Hi,

A forum user drops a statement here that is clearly incorrect and then doesn't show his face again....

And a reasonable number of other forum users jump on the topic....

Don't you guys have anything better to do, it's like a pub here sometimes...  :-DD

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« Reply #64 on: October 19, 2022, 09:27:31 pm »
Don't you guys have anything better to do, it's like a pub here sometimes...  :-DD

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if the bar steward  has  norfolk n good  on tap,then nothing

But I just checked.
There are no CHIPS in stock, to go with the meal, especially MCU flavored ones.
The bowl of NUTS is empty.  Apparently all the NUTS have turned their hand, into SPAM BOTing.
 

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« Reply #67 on: October 19, 2022, 10:15:30 pm »
NFG is one I get often.

I once worked for a company where the tech staff used NFG for fault markings.
Then one day all the executives got company cars. They all arrived with the number plates starting with NFG...
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During WW2 British troops used to needle American troops by marking unserviceable equipment as "U/S".
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« Reply #68 on: October 19, 2022, 10:23:33 pm »
LOL too much swearing??

This forum has a LOT of posts with a LOT of words spanning MANY years
I am of the opinion there isn't nearly enough swearing!

From google...
"fuck" site:eevblog.com
About 3,250 results (0.31 seconds)
 
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« Reply #69 on: October 19, 2022, 10:40:00 pm »
Personally I don’t like swearing, but provided others don’t behave that way in front of my family then it’s entirely their business. For those that want it, there are profanity filters available for Firefox and probably other browsers too.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/advanced_profanity_filter/
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we did have a gropecunt lane here,but the puritans got a bit wobbly and insisted it got renamed.How long before the twatts  in Orkney get relocated?
You can always say "bugger it" & move to Shitterton!
 
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« Reply #71 on: October 19, 2022, 11:53:55 pm »
Swearing isn't as offensive as it used to be. Society changes. Old newspapers wouldn't print the f-word, but wouldn't have a problem with racial slurs such as paki and coon. Nowadays they will happily print cunt and fuck, but not p-word and c**n.

The UK used to be very "high & mighty" back in the 1960s/70s about being the only country with a "Race Relations Act".
My feeling, after living there for a while in 71/72 as that they were the only country that needed one!

The "P, C, & N words" were widespread amongst the demographic I worked with.
Then there was the "much loved"  "Black & White Minstrel Show" on TV, with completely unnecessary "blackface" on the performers, not to mention "Till Death Us Do Part".

Before I went there, I thought Alf Garnett was ridiculously over drawn, but, "bugger me", I'm sure I worked with him!

That, of course, was the English-------Scottish swear words are often incomprehensible, although they can make the word "England" sound like one!
 
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« Reply #72 on: October 19, 2022, 11:59:58 pm »
NFG is one I get often.

I once worked for a company where the tech staff used NFG for fault markings.
Then one day all the executives got company cars. They all arrived with the number plates starting with NFG...

We would often turn off the main breaker of faulty things which shouldn't be turned on & label them "disabled".
The first time I encountered a "Disabled" toilet, I wondered why anyone would disable a dunny! ;D
 
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We would often turn off the main breaker of faulty things which shouldn't be turned on & label them "disabled".
The first time I encountered a "Disabled" toilet, I wondered why anyone would disable a dunny
Cant get a better example of people taking offence on behalf of others,banned by the bbc for being offensive to disabled people
https://youtu.be/6isXNVdguI8
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« Reply #74 on: October 20, 2022, 12:37:13 am »
Personally I don’t like swearing, but provided others don’t behave that way in front of my family then it’s entirely their business. For those that want it, there are profanity filters available for Firefox and probably other browsers too.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/advanced_profanity_filter/
Problem solved.

Profanity filters drive me nuts. I mean not in concept, but in practice they tend to be incredibly stupid. Alexa is one of the worst offenders I have dealt with, words like "pussycat" and "pussyfoot" are not dirty/swear words at all and yet "she" will say "<bleep> cat" and there is no way to disable that.
 

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We would often turn off the main breaker of faulty things which shouldn't be turned on & label them "disabled".
The first time I encountered a "Disabled" toilet, I wondered why anyone would disable a dunny
Cant get a better example of people taking offence on behalf of others,banned by the bbc for being offensive to disabled people
https://youtu.be/6isXNVdguI8
Even though it was written and performed by someone registered as disabled and who  often referred to himself as a raspberry

People getting offended on behalf of others is another thing that drives me nuts. More than once I've heard somebody say something is offensive to some group that applies to me and I'm thinking wait a sec, did you even think to ask me if *I* find it offensive before making that assumption? No, of course they didn't, because it's just mindless virtue signalling.
 

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« Reply #76 on: October 20, 2022, 01:38:24 am »
People getting offended on behalf of others is another thing that drives me nuts. More than once I've heard somebody say something is offensive to some group that applies to me and I'm thinking wait a sec, did you even think to ask me if *I* find it offensive before making that assumption? No, of course they didn't, because it's just mindless virtue signalling.

I don't want to cause any trouble, or offend you in anyway, and especially not make anything up.  But the forum members, of the great transistors, burnt out society, from Mars, (would theoretically, especially if they actually existed) take extreme offense, at you taking offense, to another group that makes things up, for taking offense.
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« Reply #77 on: October 20, 2022, 06:56:27 am »
Personally I don’t like swearing, but provided others don’t behave that way in front of my family then it’s entirely their business. For those that want it, there are profanity filters available for Firefox and probably other browsers too.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/advanced_profanity_filter/
Problem solved.

Profanity filters drive me nuts. I mean not in concept, but in practice they tend to be incredibly stupid. Alexa is one of the worst offenders I have dealt with, words like "pussycat" and "pussyfoot" are not dirty/swear words at all and yet "she" will say "<bleep> cat" and there is no way to disable that.

In my last job before retiring, the contract IT guy did his routine visit to mess with our server, & inadvertently set the profanity filter to "hard" filtering.

Australian businesses have a thing called a "Australian Business Number"or "ABN".
I answered an email from a bloke whose last name sounded vaguely like " F----ing".
As part of my answer, I included part of his mesage, including his ABN,
To the filter protocol, the name and ABN, interpreted as a rather nasty comment about indigenous people.
My message was rejected for "Racial Defamation"!

I was so astounded that I sent an internal e -mail to the Boss, saying "The bloody thing has blocked me!"
That, too, was blocked, this time for "profanity"! >:( >:(
 
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Re: Crazy the amount of swearing in this forum
« Reply #78 on: October 20, 2022, 07:45:11 am »

I was so astounded that I sent an internal e -mail to the Boss, saying "The bloody thing has blocked me!"
That, too, was blocked, this time for "profanity"! >:( >:(

"Profanity filters" must be the stupidest, most worthless American invention that contributes absolutely nothing to computer security (what does it actually contribute to?), or actually impacts negatively! Luckily we don't usually use such things in Europe.
 

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Re: Crazy the amount of swearing in this forum
« Reply #79 on: October 20, 2022, 09:36:43 am »
Swearing isn't as offensive as it used to be. Society changes. Old newspapers wouldn't print the f-word, but wouldn't have a problem with racial slurs such as paki and coon. Nowadays they will happily print cunt and fuck, but not p-word and c**n.

The UK used to be very "high & mighty" back in the 1960s/70s about being the only country with a "Race Relations Act".
My feeling, after living there for a while in 71/72 as that they were the only country that needed one!

The "P, C, & N words" were widespread amongst the demographic I worked with.
Then there was the "much loved"  "Black & White Minstrel Show" on TV, with completely unnecessary "blackface" on the performers, not to mention "Till Death Us Do Part".

The Black and White Minstrell Show baffled me and was gob-smackingly awful on many levels.

'Til Death Us Do Part was very explicitly designed to ridicule the old-fashioned racist attitudes, showing them for what they were and ridiculing them.

Better examples of the attitudes of the times might be the comedy in "The Wheeltappers and Shunters Social Club", "The Comedians" (both with Bernard Manning, shudder), or "Love Thy Neighbour". Hard to watch nowadays.

No, the old days weren't always golden!

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Re: Crazy the amount of swearing in this forum
« Reply #80 on: October 20, 2022, 09:54:15 am »
or "Love Thy Neighbour". Hard to watch nowadays.

Believe it or not, the pilot episode of LTN is on youtube and is worth a re-watch. You'll see that Eddie Booth is not only a racist but a two-faced racist.
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Re: Crazy the amount of swearing in this forum
« Reply #81 on: October 20, 2022, 10:08:17 am »
or "Love Thy Neighbour". Hard to watch nowadays.

Believe it or not, the pilot episode of LTN is on youtube and is worth a re-watch. You'll see that Eddie Booth is not only a racist but a two-faced racist.

Actually, that rings a bell.

ISTR the black neighbour being a decent person, and the white protagonist (Booth) being ignorant and unnecessarily fearful. Nonetheless, whereas 'TDUDP was searing radical TV and obvious, LTN was a more typical sitcom and more ambiguous.
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