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Expanding - Hopefully
« on: April 20, 2021, 03:27:23 am »
I already have the bunker for storage, and it's awesome, but not very convenient as it's in a different part of the business park.
I just found out about this storage space in the lab building for sale, I've been waiting 10 years for one of these to come up, they are as rare as a clear case Fluke 87.
Power, lighting, ventilation, and I can just wheel stuff on the trolley to it, right near my car spot. WAY cheaper than buying a bigger lab.
Not a done deal yet, but told them I'll take it. So fingers crossed it goes through. Ideally they want to sell it along with a big office they are also selling, but it's on a seperate title and know they might end up having to sell it individually anyway.

 
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2021, 05:05:47 am »
Bah, you just reminded me of when I missed out on a clear cased Fluke 87.

Hope you get the space!
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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2021, 09:22:34 am »
Just try to make it possible to access everything you put in there.

I can see a mega shelving project not too far down the road...!
 

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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2021, 11:16:51 am »
I foresee Dave installing a pick and place machine, a reflow oven, a QA station, and then hiring a student to run them part time, to in house manufacture his uCurrents in batches. Then a video series on how to run, and mistakes for young players, on running a manufacturing plant.
 

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Re: Expanding - Hopefully
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2021, 03:27:34 am »
UPDATE:
Just got a call, the owner asked if I was willing to exchange contracts but delay settlement, as they need to sell the office and don't want to move twice.
No problem!  :-+
 
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2021, 02:24:10 am »
Your primary lab doesn't have a window anyway - you could make this place your larger primary lab :)
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2021, 03:37:14 am »
Your primary lab doesn't have a window anyway - you could make this place your larger primary lab :)

Would depend on the available climate control. I don't believe there is any. Looks like that's only a fart extractor.
 

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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2021, 04:31:54 am »
Your primary lab doesn't have a window anyway - you could make this place your larger primary lab :)
Would depend on the available climate control. I don't believe there is any. Looks like that's only a fart extractor.

Farts are pushed out the door as the outside air is pushed in.
 
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2021, 04:49:04 am »
Your primary lab doesn't have a window anyway - you could make this place your larger primary lab :)
Would depend on the available climate control. I don't believe there is any. Looks like that's only a fart extractor.

Farts are pushed out the door as the outside air is pushed in.

TMI.

Oh, you are talking about the mechanical ventilation.
 

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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2021, 06:06:55 am »
GOT IT!
8 Week settlement, just forwarded my $1000 deposit.
 :-DMM
 
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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2021, 06:23:01 am »
Congrats!

Straight from the dumpster room to you new storage - you'll have it full in no time.
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2021, 09:34:48 am »
Straight from the dumpster room to you new storage - you'll have it full in no time.

Yes, direct trolley access, but not on the same level. I have a choice of lift or car ramp though.
 

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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2021, 01:33:19 pm »
Add a hover car (EV of course)  to move stuff from the dumpster room to your new space and all will be well with the world!
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Re: Expanding - Hopefully
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2021, 07:55:56 pm »
Does it come with 'Free Electricity' like the bunker  ;)
 

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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2021, 04:29:04 am »
Does it come with 'Free Electricity' like the bunker  ;)

I believe so  ;D
Just in time for my LBC miner that is on the truck.

Although I will need to get internet in there. Three options for that I can see right now:
1) External 4G Antenna through the wall might be able to pick up a bar or two of signal (mobile kinda-sorta works outside the room, not inside). Can use my existing phone spare SIM whcih has plenty of  monthly bandwidth.
2) Get someone to run an ethernet cable from my office, down the hallway, down the shaft 5 levels and then across to the store room. IIRC that's about 70m or so, so maybe doable.
3) Get a dedicated internet line installed from the comms room just 10-15m away on the same level. This would require yet another internet account however. Probably the least desirable option.
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« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2021, 04:43:33 am »
Photo of the comms cupboard at the end of my corridor.
Not sure if you can even get an ethernet directly down those 5 levels. Maybe.
 

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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2021, 04:45:28 pm »
Photo of the comms cupboard at the end of my corridor.
Not sure if you can even get an ethernet directly down those 5 levels. Maybe.
Depends on regulations but chances are the wire shafts are sealed between floors (and rooms / corridors) to prevent fire from spreading.
There are small lies, big lies and then there is what is on the screen of your oscilloscope.
 

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« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2021, 08:57:20 pm »
Photo of the comms cupboard at the end of my corridor.
Not sure if you can even get an ethernet directly down those 5 levels. Maybe.
Depends on regulations but chances are the wire shafts are sealed between floors (and rooms / corridors) to prevent fire from spreading.

 
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« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2021, 10:50:28 pm »
Photo of the comms cupboard at the end of my corridor.
Not sure if you can even get an ethernet directly down those 5 levels. Maybe.
Depends on regulations but chances are the wire shafts are sealed between floors (and rooms / corridors) to prevent fire from spreading.

Possibly. Looks very tight in any case.
Could of course use one of the existing multi pair phone cables and maybe some sort of VDSL box or something, but that's not ethernet grade cabling.
There is an ethernet rack box on wall with cables going up a level, I don't know what that's for.
Maybe those big thick blue bundle of cables are multiple ethernet? Need to take a closer look.
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« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2021, 04:08:04 pm »
Maybe those big thick blue bundle of cables are multiple ethernet? Need to take a closer look.
The ones going to the white LSA+ cross connection strips? If yes, then those are more likely regular phone cables. That is CAT3 at most IIRC. My guess would be that the blue cables are the ones entering the building from the distribution box somewhere in the street and the light-yellow ones are going to the offices.

For 1Gb/s ethernet you'll need at least CAT5e

Is the picture above taken at the 5th floor or the basement? It looks like there is another level below from where the cables enter the building. Besides that I'm kinda surprised you can even access this room. You can probably listen in on everyone's land-line phone calls from there.
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« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2021, 11:43:10 am »
Not sure, if I would use copper. I'd prefer (if possible) fibre cables.
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« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2021, 11:31:29 pm »
Is the picture above taken at the 5th floor or the basement? It looks like there is another level below from where the cables enter the building. Besides that I'm kinda surprised you can even access this room. You can probably listen in on everyone's land-line phone calls from there.

It's the 5th floor.
The basement looks like this:
 
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Re: Expanding - Hopefully
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2021, 09:51:59 am »
GOT IT!
8 Week settlement, just forwarded my $1000 deposit.
 :-DMM

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Well done.
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Re: Expanding - Hopefully
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2021, 12:27:23 pm »
Re 'your' black data cabinet, there is probably a number on the lock which can be used to order a replacement key for a couple of AUD.

Getting your existing/new internet down to the new bunker.  There does not appear to be much space in the ducting between floors run another cable. 

I can see a number of possible ways, none of which are 100% kosher:

A) The existing TP phone lines.
B) The soon to be redundant existing cable (CAT5?) from 'your' data cabinet.
C) There maybe an existing unused CAT5 cable.

A) I don't know how readably available DSL type equipment is, but I am sure it appears on eBay etc.  However, it is not fast.  A couple of cheap hacked Powerline Network Extenders could be used to inject a signal through the CAT3 cable.  Hopefully it will not cause much interference with neighbours still running A/VDSL.  >:D

B) Once you switch over to NBN you old provider may just abandon the equipment (if no one else uses it). In any event I assume it already has CAT5 between the Lab and Basement Rack.  It would be no brainer to 'reuse it'.

Then there is just a matter of running (and hiding) a new cable between the Comms room and storage area.


BTW. I agree with Big Clive regarding your electronic hording :-)

Looks like there are off the shelf solutions to hacking Powerline Extenders:

https://www.startech.com/en-ie/networking-io/110vdslextgb
https://www.perle.com/products/ethernet-extenders.shtml
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« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2021, 01:21:58 pm »
Getting your existing/new internet down to the new bunker.  There does not appear to be much space in the ducting between floors run another cable. 
I can see a number of possible ways, none of which are 100% kosher:
A) The existing TP phone lines.
B) The soon to be redundant existing cable (CAT5?) from 'your' data cabinet.
C) There maybe an existing unused CAT5 cable.

My existing cable was one of the 15 or so phone lines coming in, using VDSL.
 


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