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Re: New Off Topic Hobbies Section
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2021, 05:40:08 am »
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Imagine my surprise, then, this morning, when looking through "Show new replies to your posts" to find that, although the Moderation thread came up complete, there was no "quote" or "reply" option, only a stupid "thanks" option.

"Weird", thought I , & resolved to look for the thread using  the main index.
When I found it, I was surprised to see no postings later than November 2020, & no explanation as to why.
There are 2 Moderation Report threads one in General Chat and the other in the Supporters lounge which I have temporarily locked for moderators and members to take stock of the last few days postings.
Yes that right, I'm as shocked as anyone that I have a lock feature for a thread in the Supporters Lounge.
Maybe that's normal for OP's there IDK.  :-//

My bad! :-[

It had slipped my mind that I got bumped up into the Supporters Lounge, due to longevity, rather than support.
"Moderation Reports" pops up on "Show new replies to your posts" automatically, & I thought it was the "General Chat" one, as I am not used to being amongst the select-----the rabble is more my comfort zone! ;D
 

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Re: New Off Topic Hobbies Section
« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2021, 01:08:56 am »
Hi Dave,

with the new forum sections what are your thoughts on moving some of the established or even some of the more recent topics into them?

Obvious one is this 3D printing one for a start https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/3d-printer-yet/

a few others from recent topics as other maybes? Fairly easy to trawl into the last couple of pages of threads in general, beginners etc to find a few more.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair/tensile-strength-solder-for-repairing-small-band-saw-blade/
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/holy-crap!-cant-drill-holes-correctly!/

Depending on what you think do we add them here rather than PM/email?

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Re: New Off Topic Hobbies Section
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2021, 01:54:38 am »
Cooking Noooooooo :palm:  :-DD

I'm not enthusiastic about this new section but what I am even more against is facepalming others interests. I definitely don't want to see an elite set of "acceptable" hobbies and then sneering at others excluded from that set.

If there was any worthwhile benefit to be gained from the new sections then it will be diminished if any form of intolerance to others interests is allowed to fester.

 

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Re: New Off Topic Hobbies Section
« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2021, 02:02:22 am »
Seriously look at my signature line and actually READ my earlier post here in this thread saying I would likely contribute! I am anything but anti food or cooking.

Don't throw muck unless you know the context the joking comment was made with.
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Re: New Off Topic Hobbies Section
« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2021, 02:28:04 am »
A forum area equally related to electronics, test equipment, design, manufacturing, and testing would be something like "Standards, Agencies, Testing, and Approvals". Consider EMC, IEC, UL, ATEX, UKCA, 61000, 61010, 60079, etc. Currently, postings on these topics are spread across several forum areas. A central place for these topics may allow for improved communication.
 

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Re: New Off Topic Hobbies Section
« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2021, 02:42:22 am »
Metrology sort of makes sense for those topics? If you want a collected index of existing ones maybe write it and ask to have it made a sticky?
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Re: New Off Topic Hobbies Section
« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2021, 04:02:06 am »
Metrology sort of makes sense for those topics? If you want a collected index of existing ones maybe write it and ask to have it made a sticky?

Metrology would make sense if the question were about, let's say, the use of the calibrated antenna, spectrum analyzer, or such equipment. However, if the question were about some detail in standards such as IEC 61000 or CISPR 16 then would that fall under Projects, Manufacturing, or maybe even Beginners?

I've seen questions related to standards and agencies when it comes to regional safety, regulations for transmitters such as Bluetooth, where the problem isn't how the electrically interface with it, but how to guide the product through testing and certification.

There are also questions related to RoHS and CE marking. With Brexit there is now UKCA, and all sorts of administrative trouble related to it. Approvals for China has also been changing over the last few years.

Perhaps a better title would be "Standards, Regulations, Agencies, and Certification" to describe the it.
 

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Re: New Off Topic Hobbies Section
« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2021, 04:54:42 am »
I didn't register the numbers as being product standards I only saw the first bit on Testing and standards.

As they vary across the world I can see a lot of couch exspurt comments in the threads in that sort of section already  :palm: RoHs is already a complete dogs breakfast around the planet.
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Re: New Off Topic Hobbies Section
« Reply #33 on: February 17, 2021, 05:18:41 am »
I didn't register the numbers as being product standards I only saw the first bit on Testing and standards.

As they vary across the world I can see a lot of couch exspurt comments in the threads in that sort of section already  :palm: RoHs is already a complete dogs breakfast around the planet.

Things like RoHs can be fixed if experts reach out to politicians...  it isn't going to happen by itself, or by waiting for corporate interests to get it right.
 

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Re: New Off Topic Hobbies Section
« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2021, 06:58:53 am »
Pointless reaching out to 'politicians' in Country or EU X. Australia's ROHS is nothing like an EU ROHS so rehashing that BS ad infinitum here at this stage us and NZ don't. This and similar rabbitholes would go political/economic/green/corporation and be in general a bad idea.

Standards are similarly Country/EU based discussions and as I mentioned earlier would only encourage couchsperts.
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Re: New Off Topic Hobbies Section
« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2021, 06:01:21 pm »
This thread is interesting all on its own.   You will never make everybody happy with respect to the right number of and type of subsections nor how they are named.   For example Solar technologies are now to the point that they are affordable to people like me so I thought a subsection covering Solar and off and on Grid technologies would be a good idea.   Then some time ago I realized that that was already covered in the power and Renewable Energy section.   The phrase "Renewable Energy" rubs me the wrong way because there is nothing renewable about energy.

As far as having a forums or sub forums, for 3D printing and CNC I really think that would be a good idea.   The reason is that 3D printing is advancing pretty fast and I can see the day where 3D printed circuit boards / assemblies are the norm and they will be very much 3D constructs on their own.   That is we will be building PCB in the near future with far more that on or two component layers.   CNC in a more general sense has applicability to just about anything made in the realm of electronics due to the need for enclosures.   Not to mention the machining of the actual PCB.

The problem I wee right now is that there are two good places to post related to these interests.   We have a Robotics and Automation forum and Manufacturing and Assembly, plus the ""off"" topic 3D Printing forum, which actually makes one think about where to put 3D printing and CNC posts.   I just see the organization right now as being a bit messed up making things confusing and frankly thins posts out across multiple sections.    So yeah I believe the topics are related enough to electronics to be accepted here, it is just a matter of finding the right organization, maybe not so much more forum sections but subsections. 

As to expansion I do believe that it is extremely easy to have to many forum sections that make it hard to select the right forum for a post.   The EEVblogs should have a minimal number of forum sections that get the job done.   When considering things like wood working that is harder to judge as if one is doing restoration work on old electronics half the challenge can be in the wood work.   I don't see it as totally worthless.

As for how I use the forums it is always via the web and a web browser.   I don't really consider the opinions of others that use alternative technologies as valid.   To me it makes about as much sense as the neckbeards that are complaining about E-mail that is not plain text.    I'm really sorry for the guys that can't adapt to modern technologies but modern E-Mail is one of the best things to happen to the whole concept of E-Mail.   In this world you either get with the times or fall far behind,
 

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Re: New Off Topic Hobbies Section
« Reply #36 on: April 30, 2021, 04:18:42 pm »
I see as a great idea. I also learn how to cook 3 years ago (yes for years I was considered the terror on the kitchen, able to make it look like a bomb site), and nowadays after being teach by my wife I started to do some foods that she teach me better than she does (although I think that it is her scheme to run away from the kitchen since she didn't enjoy cooking  :-DD). I don't mind and kinda like to experiment (until now only once the food has to go into the trash.

I would love to see also a section to Photography, one of my hobbies and probably the biggest one that I've been doing since I remember.

What I don't like is the attitude of some users that don't accept anything outside of the scope of the forum, and then go and make ultimatums like "If this happens I'm going/out of here" or the kind of user who didn't want to use their time to learn something new or filter/block a section of the website he is not interested.

From what I saw most users here are professionals with high scholar degrees and most of the topics are kept on topic, with people knowing how to filter what is off-topic and on-topic, keeping the off-topic to a minimum. If said users don't like something, they just need to express why, without the ultimatums. Then is a weighting of who wants and who don't wants and in a democratic fashion the option with most votes is the one who goes forward. Ultimatums for me is kinda childish and demonstrates insecurity in anything other than what they feel good about it.

And if said users don't feel OK with that, they just need to or block said section of the forum or simply log out from the forum and look for another avenue to read what they are interested in. There are a lot of other forums or platforms that for sure will have exactly what said dissatisfied user wants to. Or even start their own forum/website/blog/Youtube channel/discord channel.

I hope I didn't sound like a jerk (or probably I sound like it). I didn't want to hurt anyone feelings. It is a controversial opinion yes, I will not get a lot of friends for it (to be sincere I'm expecting some backlash) but it's my opinion, without ultimatums and I think I should be respected by it as I respect the others opinions.
 


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