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Re: SMF 2.0 FORUM UPGRADE COMPLETE!
« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2011, 05:55:28 am »
I don't mind the karma system, however, I don't think it will be useful.

Alternatively they might average out in the long run to a reasonable indicator of whose contributions are generally found to be useful.

The issue here is found to be useful instead of useful. There are many oh so delicate souls who think the world has to revolve around them. E.g. don't believe datasheets are there to be read but believe the laws of physics don't apply to them. And when they don't get exactly the answer they expect they have a hissy fit. Often decorated with a "you are not helpful" whining.

There will also be the karma whores. Those who give answers that fell good (but are wrong) to increase their karma points.

Regarding the forum in general. There is something I already missed with the old software. A link back to the EEVBLOG. I alway found it funny that the EEVBLOG points here, but one can't easily get back with a single click.
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Re: SMF 2.0 FORUM UPGRADE COMPLETE!
« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2011, 06:01:22 am »
Regarding the forum in general. There is something I already missed with the old software. A link back to the EEVBLOG. I alway found it funny that the EEVBLOG points here, but one can't easily get back with a single click.

It's down the bottom in the links section.

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Re: SMF 2.0 FORUM UPGRADE COMPLETE!
« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2011, 06:02:27 am »
Dave, I take it that there is no way to eliminate the double line "started by Mr. X" bit in the title column?  I think you may have reduced the font size, but it's still bloody annoying. The actual "title" is in a softer color than the "posted by" line, so it's still partly drowned out by the more insignificant information.

I don't see the point in that.
It gives you access to the multi-page direct links, and you have to use two lines any way for the info in the other column, so it's not like it's wasted space. Unless I'm missing something?

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I've added a plug-in that puts "Started By" in a different column, just like the old forum, does that  help?

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Re: SMF 2.0 FORUM UPGRADE COMPLETE!
« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2011, 08:18:38 am »
Looking good Dave! Extra Karma for having a wee Scotland flag on the country list  :D
 

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Re: SMF 2.0 FORUM UPGRADE COMPLETE!
« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2011, 08:54:38 am »
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Re: SMF 2.0 FORUM UPGRADE COMPLETE!
« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2011, 09:48:21 am »
Testing, 1, 2, 3.

Can you hear me now?

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Re: SMF 2.0 FORUM UPGRADE COMPLETE!
« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2011, 10:16:07 am »
i've switched to the original theme (Core) yesterday because the new one sucked, it was working fine but today it's broken

there seems to be some pngs missing in https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Themes/core/images/menu_icons/

maybe i had them cached, anyway, can you fix it?

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Re: SMF 2.0 FORUM UPGRADE COMPLETE!
« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2011, 10:51:13 am »
You should be able to select your own theme from the Profile-Modify Profile page.
But they are major theme changes.
I'd have to create entire alternative themes with just a colour change if people only wanted that.

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Ah, that fixed it. Found a theme that i like. :)

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Re: SMF 2.0 FORUM UPGRADE COMPLETE!
« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2011, 11:01:40 am »
The issue here is found to be useful instead of useful. There are many oh so delicate souls who think the world has to revolve around them.

Glad you commented, Bored, yours was actually one of the names I had in mind when I wrote that ;)  My hope was that, with the separate +/- tallies, over time it would show that people who've answered a question with some Uncomfortable Truths have accumulated plenty of thumbs up for knowing their bananas, and many fewer thumbs down from the "that's not the answer I wanted" brigade.  Probably a vain hope, though, especially if they get netted down to one figure...

(Also, having just caught up on new posts, I'm going to agree with ndictu -- the missing (new) icons are really throwing me!)
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Re: SMF 2.0 FORUM UPGRADE COMPLETE!
« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2011, 11:39:22 am »
Ah, some add-on's like the menu title icons will be installed into the default theme only, so may not work on other themes.
I'll see what I can do...

EDIT: Copied the file to all themes manually. Does it work now?

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Re: SMF 2.0 FORUM UPGRADE COMPLETE!
« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2011, 11:55:23 am »
There will also be the karma whores. Those who give answers that fell good (but are wrong) to increase their karma points.


In my experience Karma systems (and their variations) are the biggest source for quarrels on the forums that use them.
There are always some who strive to get the most positive feedback, at all cost. Then there will be some members who get always voted down no matter what they say.

In the end they only indicate who has a following, may it be positive or negative. It's just a variation of the strife for the highest postcount on forums with a large OT section and association games.
 

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Re: SMF 2.0 FORUM UPGRADE COMPLETE!
« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2011, 12:38:03 pm »
Ah, some add-on's like the menu title icons will be installed into the default theme only, so may not work on other themes.
I'll see what I can do...

EDIT: Copied the file to all themes manually. Does it work now?

Dave.
it fixed those images but the toolbar is still broken

i've checked html and something's really wrong

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<li id="button_home" class="active">
<a title="<img align="absMiddle" src="https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Themes/core/images/menu_icons/house.png" alt="Home"/>&nbsp; Home"

see title attribute

but i have no idea why it worked yesterday
 

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Re: SMF 2.0 FORUM UPGRADE COMPLETE!
« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2011, 01:09:12 pm »
I thought the single Karma point system was better than having a negative number displayed? And that was good compromise from those who don't like the system and those that do? (it is selectable)

The country flags was an add-in, I'll add it back.

Dave.

Did you add the "Thumbs" before the "UP" in the karma link yourself or was it already like that?

Smells like a little hack :P
 

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Re: SMF 2.0 FORUM UPGRADE COMPLETE!
« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2011, 01:27:35 pm »
Did you add the "Thumbs" before the "UP" in the karma link yourself or was it already like that?
Smells like a little hack :P

It kindly allows you to change the text!

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Re: SMF 2.0 FORUM UPGRADE COMPLETE!
« Reply #39 on: June 20, 2011, 06:48:19 pm »
The issue here is found to be useful instead of useful. There are many oh so delicate souls who think the world has to revolve around them.

Glad you commented, Bored, yours was actually one of the names I had in mind when I wrote that ;)

And you really think I care about karma points? Hey, by just posting that response (and fiddling with my signature) I "lost" something like two karma points, and I couldn't care less.
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Re: SMF 2.0 FORUM UPGRADE COMPLETE!
« Reply #40 on: June 20, 2011, 07:38:40 pm »
Can you imagine Bob Widlar's karma counter if he was with us and was on this forum? Negative overflow on a 32bit counter!  :D

The following picture introduces him:

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Re: SMF 2.0 FORUM UPGRADE COMPLETE!
« Reply #41 on: June 20, 2011, 07:42:00 pm »
Glad you commented, Bored, yours was actually one of the names I had in mind when I wrote that ;)

And you really think I care about karma points?

No, I'm pretty certain you couldn't give a stuff for yourself.  But I was thinking of several instances where people have dismissed your posts as just having a grumpy rant about some subject, only to come back a while later and say "oh, it turns out you know what you're talking about".  Hence some indication that someone has historically known what they're talking about could be useful to others in not making the same mistake.

There are those for whom the converse sometimes holds true, of course, and people who simply won't listen to advice they don't like, but just figured that's what these karma systems are intended to address.  I'm sure it's no skin off any useful regular's nose either way.
 

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Re: SMF 2.0 FORUM UPGRADE COMPLETE!
« Reply #42 on: June 20, 2011, 10:02:16 pm »
Dave, I see you have added an extra column and moved some of the "second line" info there.... Thank you! I still find it more difficult to quickly scan the new posts for topics of interest than I did on the previous version of the forum software, but it's bearable now, and if nobody else is having problems, perhaps I just need new glasses or something! :-)

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Christian



I don't see the point in that.
It gives you access to the multi-page direct links, and you have to use two lines any way for the info in the other column, so it's not like it's wasted space. Unless I'm missing something?

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Re: SMF 2.0 FORUM UPGRADE COMPLETE!
« Reply #43 on: June 21, 2011, 11:11:30 am »
dave, can you please change

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in Themes/core/index.template.php, line 474 ?

hopefully that will fix the broken toolbar

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Re: SMF 2.0 FORUM UPGRADE COMPLETE!
« Reply #44 on: June 21, 2011, 12:15:38 pm »
Ok, changed.
I have no idea what I did there, but did it work?

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Re: SMF 2.0 FORUM UPGRADE COMPLETE!
« Reply #45 on: June 21, 2011, 01:36:46 pm »
Ok, changed.
I have no idea what I did there, but did it work?
yea, way better

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Re: SMF 2.0 FORUM UPGRADE COMPLETE!
« Reply #46 on: June 21, 2011, 06:04:26 pm »
But I was thinking of several instances where people have dismissed your posts as just having a grumpy rant about some subject, only to come back a while later and say "oh, it turns out you know what you're talking about".

I tend to ignore threads once it turns out the thread starter isn't listening or doesn't get it, so I usually don't know and I don't care if they come back. In recent times I have started to delete postings if the thread starter isn't listening, in an attempt to keep the threads out of my "Show new replies to your posts" list. Which should help me to ignore the threads I want to ignore. Just yesterday I deleted a reply to a posting from s.mosfet because he couldn't handle a list with more than three items. And we don't want to overwhelm such delicate souls, do we?

But again, from my point of view, if people want a karma system they should get one.

Edit: *ka-ching* Payed with another 23 karma points for this posting. I really start to like the karma system. Keeps certain people busy.
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Re: SMF 2.0 FORUM UPGRADE COMPLETE!
« Reply #47 on: June 22, 2011, 10:31:53 am »
from my view, we need good people with helpful thought for anyone who ask, but we also need "bad" people to keep their arse moving as well. my 2/100.
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