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Title: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: EEVblog on March 29, 2016, 10:45:54 pm
I installed a mod were you can now "Thanks" a poster for making an individual post. There is a thumb up in each post.
I like the concept, and one that can't really be abused like a dislike can.
The most thanked user and the most thanked posts show up in the stats.
Number of thanks also shows up in your profile info on the left.

Options are:
(http://i.imgur.com/U7qifn0.png)
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: crispy_tofu on March 29, 2016, 10:48:34 pm
Wow, that's really cool!  :-+
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: ataradov on March 29, 2016, 11:55:25 pm
Yeah, we need likes.

IMO, this just creates more visual noise and will eventually result in people begging for "thanks".

Also, cool and easy way to get my name into every post. I'll just thank every post I see for now :)
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: EEVblog on March 30, 2016, 12:16:49 am
You can't withdraw thanks as far as I can tell.

Should be able to now.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: EEVblog on March 30, 2016, 12:18:01 am
IMO, this just creates more visual noise and will eventually result in people begging for "thanks".

Not on other forums I've used that have this feature.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: tautech on March 30, 2016, 12:22:10 am
You can't withdraw thanks as far as I can tell.

Should be able to now.
Yep, visible in the OP now.  :-+
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: ataradov on March 30, 2016, 12:22:56 am
Not on other forums I've used that have this feature.
The visual noise part is a matter of personal preference, of course.

But thanks systems do get abused a lot in my experience on random forums that I find from time to time through search.

Just google "begging for thanks on forums" and you will see lots of forums with a topic discussing how annoying this begging is.

Also, on stackoverflow and others begging for points is even more prominent, since it gives some benefits, I believe.

You give people a measurable number and they will want to make it go up.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: MarvinTheMartian on March 30, 2016, 12:30:29 am
I think it is a good idea despite any possible drawbacks, it let's posters know if they are making a valuable contribution or just posting waffle. :clap:
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: rx8pilot on March 30, 2016, 12:53:56 am
I am hoping for a 'PAY' button where I can offer money for answers. It would be very difficult to work out the details, but in concept it would be great to offer money when an answer is needed quickly and for commercial gain. I was on an excel forum that tried this but not sure how it worked out or how they did it.

Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: EEVblog on March 30, 2016, 01:35:06 am
Just google "begging for thanks on forums" and you will see lots of forums with a topic discussing how annoying this begging is.

Easy fixed. You beg for Thanks, you get banned.
If it all goes to crap, the feature gets turned off.
It is what you make it.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: EEVblog on March 30, 2016, 01:36:54 am
I take it that anonymous thanks is not so easy to just switch on. Some people might prefer to remain anonymous. Just as there a some who prefer to not disclose their location.

No option for it, as shown above.
The code would have to be modified from showing users names, to just showing how many thanked.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: rx8pilot on March 30, 2016, 01:42:55 am
Just google "begging for thanks on forums" and you will see lots of forums with a topic discussing how annoying this begging is.

Easy fixed. You beg for Thanks, you get banned.
If it all goes to crap, the feature gets turned off.
It is what you make it.

The crowd here seems more than classy enough to make good use of it. It's nice to know when a post is useful.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: DimitriP on March 30, 2016, 01:58:23 am
I am hoping for a 'PAY' button where I can offer money for answers. It would be very difficult to work out the details, but in concept it would be great to offer money when an answer is needed quickly and for commercial gain. I was on an excel forum that tried this but not sure how it worked out or how they did it.

What is an engineering hour go for nowdays? $500 /Hr?
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: rx8pilot on March 30, 2016, 02:22:41 am
That is about right for a company to charge for a top engineer and cover overhead a profit. A private transaction that is done for extra money could go for a lot less and the engineer would keep all the dough.

There is so much talent here. Most would be willing to demand a lot less than $500/hr and be quite satisfied.


Sent from my horrible mobile....

Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: Muttley Snickers on March 30, 2016, 02:30:05 am
There is no provision to give yourself a pat on the back either unless you make your own....... ::)


The following users thanked this post: Muttley Snickers Cheated
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: tautech on March 30, 2016, 02:41:11 am
There is no provision to give yourself a pat on the back either unless you make your own....... ::)


The following users thanked this post: Muttley Snickers Cheated
I'll give you a pat on the back too Muttley so you don't feel too left out.  :P
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: rdl on March 30, 2016, 03:20:06 am
I dislike this.

There are posts with zero replies where a question is asked and the post has already been "thanked".

Next thing is voting I guess? Or maybe sorting posts by how many times they've been "thanked" instead of by date.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: dadler on March 30, 2016, 04:02:16 am
ataradov thanked every post in this topic  :palm:
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: MarvinTheMartian on March 30, 2016, 04:06:22 am
ataradov thanked every post in this topic  :palm:
Maybe he wasn't quite sure how it worked and had to try it again (and again and again and again.....)? ;)
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: EEVblog on March 30, 2016, 04:24:16 am
ataradov thanked every post in this topic  :palm:

Why are you doing that ataradov?
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: Zbig on March 30, 2016, 04:32:05 am
ataradov thanked every post in this topic  :palm:

Why are you doing that ataradov?

He's made a flawed, invalid point and now is trying to prove it himself. I seriously don't know WTF is wrong with this guy.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: ataradov on March 30, 2016, 04:38:53 am
Why are you doing that ataradov?
Why not? I'm thankful to everyone for participating in this forum :)

The feature is pretty stupid and pointless. And there are no rules against being polite and thanking everyone, are there?
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: ataradov on March 30, 2016, 04:40:47 am
He's made a flawed, invalid point and now is trying to prove it himself. I seriously don't know WTF is wrong with this guy.
I've been a member of too many forums killed by introduction of karma system. I don't want to look for one more forum, where there are no "likes".
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: ataradov on March 30, 2016, 04:47:38 am
And it would be nice if there was an option to hide this stuff for people who don't want to see it. Just like for signatures.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: Zbig on March 30, 2016, 04:49:59 am
He's made a flawed, invalid point and now is trying to prove it himself. I seriously don't know WTF is wrong with this guy.
I've been a member of too many forums killed by introduction of karma system. I don't want to look for one more forum, where there are no "likes".

How about stop using it instead of trying to enforce your retarded point of view on everyone?
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: Georgitsu on March 30, 2016, 05:44:28 am
Thank me too, ataradov! ;)
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: ataradov on March 30, 2016, 05:45:59 am
Thank me too, ataradov! ;)
Any time :)
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: Karel on March 30, 2016, 06:18:51 am
Where do I set the number of times I have been thanked?
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: ataradov on March 30, 2016, 06:21:58 am
I'd have much preferred to see it anonymous so as to remove the incentive to see one's "name in lights" and also to not have the thanks count so constantly visible. That would make the thanks a little more selfless and given strictly to benefit others.
Well, yes. We have this system now. It is called PM and believe it or not, I've been thanked that way and it is totally fine with me, since it does not encourage mutual public ego stroking.

I also have suspicion that number of thanks may be suggested (or actually used) as a way to gage "contribution" in future giveaways. That would suck big time and I really hope it does not come to that.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: ataradov on March 30, 2016, 06:22:59 am
Where do I set the number of times I have been thanked?
You don't, but now you have 1.  Enjoy :)
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: Zbig on March 30, 2016, 06:34:11 am
I also have suspicion that number of thanks may be suggested (or actually used) as a way to gage "contribution" in future giveaways. That would suck big time and I really hope it does not come to that.

You seem to think you're f***** good with predicting future. Don't you think you're in the wrong business, perhaps?
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: EEVblog on March 30, 2016, 06:46:07 am
I'd have much preferred to see it anonymous so as to remove the incentive to see one's "name in lights" and also to not have the thanks count so constantly visible. That would make the thanks a little more selfless and given strictly to benefit others.

That can be turned off.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: EEVblog on March 30, 2016, 06:49:10 am
I'd have much preferred to see it anonymous so as to remove the incentive to see one's "name in lights" and also to not have the thanks count so constantly visible. That would make the thanks a little more selfless and given strictly to benefit others.
Well, yes. We have this system now. It is called PM and believe it or not, I've been thanked that way and it is totally fine with me, since it does not encourage mutual public ego stroking.

A single click thumb is much easier to do than a PM. I think it's a nice way to show appreciation for a post that had a lot of work put into it and/or was helpful to someone.

Quote
I also have suspicion that number of thanks may be suggested (or actually used) as a way to gage "contribution" in future giveaways. That would suck big time and I really hope it does not come to that.

Wrong.
I cannot even get a list of members by how many Thanks they have. The option to display the number of thanks in people's profiles can be turned off.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: EEVblog on March 30, 2016, 06:54:27 am
Why are you doing that ataradov?
Why not? I'm thankful to everyone for participating in this forum :)
The feature is pretty stupid and pointless. And there are no rules against being polite and thanking everyone, are there?

Yes, abuse the system to make a point and you'll get banned.
You've made your point, now don't abuse the system and ruin it for everyone else please.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: Towger on March 30, 2016, 06:55:10 am
It may be possible to set a limit on the number to thanks a user can give in a day.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: ataradov on March 30, 2016, 06:56:54 am
A single click thumb is much easier to do than a PM.
And that's my problem with it. It totally devalues the thing. If I get a PM thanking me, I know that person made an actual effort. There are fewer of them, of course, but their value if much higher.

Wrong.
I cannot even get a list of members by how many Thanks they have.
  That's good to know. But part of previous giveaways was manual examination of the profile of a selected person. And someone with no Thanks may not make the cut. I'm mostly playing devil's advocate here, of course, but still something to consider.

The option to display the number of thanks in people's profiles can be turned off.
I'd be fine with it, if it was visible only to a person being thanked. That absolutely eliminates any reason to cheat and compete on pointless counters.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: EEVblog on March 30, 2016, 06:58:59 am
I'd be fine with it, if it was visible only to a person being thanked. That absolutely eliminates any reason to cheat and compete on pointless counters.

Thanks counter disabled. More more potential pissing contests. Happy now?
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: ataradov on March 30, 2016, 07:00:50 am
Happy now?
Yes, I am.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: ataradov on March 30, 2016, 07:09:42 am
Just in case anyone else does not like this, here are two AdBlock rules that return things back to the old state:
Code: [Select]
eevblog.com##div.thanks.smalltext
eevblog.com##li.thank_you_button

I'm fine with the change now, sorry if I have offended anyone.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: alexanderbrevig on March 30, 2016, 07:13:27 am
I'm fine with the change now, sorry if I have offended anyone.

PROTIP: If you don't like a feature, don't use it ;)
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: ChunkyPastaSauce on March 30, 2016, 07:19:22 am
I've found the like feature useful in other forums. When you hit a comment with a ton of likes, it's often the one ones looking for (good answer to a question) or worth a read during quick scanning. Also it's nice to see if some thought a comment was useful in someway.

Only suggestion would be, if possible, to reduce the boldness or whatever of the "The following users thanked this post" font to maybe a lighter color or something, I'm finding it's drawing my eyes away from the body of the post a bit. Just a thought though, might be just me.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: ataradov on March 30, 2016, 07:23:22 am
PROTIP: If you don't like a feature, don't use it ;)
Sure, but even if I don't use, others do and it creates more visual noise on the page and distracts from the actual post. I don't need more noise in my life, so AdBlock to the rescue :)
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: StuUK on March 30, 2016, 07:42:46 am
 :palm: just read this thread, you just can't please everyone... If you don't like it don't use it but if you appreciate someones post, why not? As for comments on visual noise, jeez get a life....
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: tszaboo on March 30, 2016, 08:48:39 am
I have to scroll enough even without seeing who thanked the post. I dont like it. It is not relevant information, takes up screen space. And yes, being bold makes it distracting.

Just in case anyone else does not like this, here are two AdBlock rules that return things back to the old state:
Code: [Select]
eevblog.com##div.thanks.smalltext
eevblog.com##li.thank_you_button

I'm fine with the change now, sorry if I have offended anyone.
This is working. Never mind, carry on.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: EEVblog on March 30, 2016, 09:14:24 am
I have to scroll enough even without seeing who thanked the post. I dont like it. It is not relevant information, takes up screen space. And yes, being bold makes it distracting.

I think the bold helps with visual ID of potentially interesting and worthy posts.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: Neganur on March 30, 2016, 10:06:17 am
But you're not doing it because you want to thank the posters, you're using it to protest...because you think it is pointless.

Why not take a deep breath and move on? :)
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: rsjsouza on March 30, 2016, 11:47:34 am
Ah! That explains the funny message I saw the other day on my phone (Google Chrome browser on Android).
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: digsys on March 30, 2016, 12:03:23 pm
Ahhhhh hidden on posts, only visible on profile .. +1
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: Seekonk on March 30, 2016, 12:49:37 pm
Oh, the HORROR!   It's Facebook all over again.  I checked every day for someone to
Like me. Truth is, many posters wouldn't know a good answer if it bit them in the ass-
embler. Can't take this stress.  No one will even respond to my posts on MJLorton.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: Muttley Snickers on April 05, 2016, 02:03:39 am
Just found something strange in regards to thanked posts, my forum profile indicates that I've been thanked 8 times yet when the list of thanked posts is displayed I count only 7, the only thing I can think of is that yesterday I notified moderators of single vandal/ graffiti/ idiot thread in which I posted "Moderator Notified" text, perhaps somebody thanked me and then the thread got nuked, not a big deal really and just a heads up.

I get few accolades elsewhere and her indoors just chucks stuff..... :phew:



Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: miguelvp on April 05, 2016, 02:45:04 am
I like the feature, hopefully it will take care of the +1's we've seen in the past with the post quoted.
I think if used right this will reduce the amount of extra post, but of course it won't stop the thanks for particular reasons since those need to be explained.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: rx8pilot on April 05, 2016, 02:47:03 am
+1

Just had to do it. Sorry.  :-+
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: Muttley Snickers on April 05, 2016, 02:49:22 am
I would assume that posts that are deleted by users also take out any accompanying thanks, don't know if the count is still retained in the users profile though, happy to test this if somebody is up for it. 
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: ChunkyPastaSauce on April 05, 2016, 02:59:50 am
+2
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: crispy_tofu on April 05, 2016, 03:07:19 am
I like the feature, hopefully it will take care of the +1's we've seen in the past with the post quoted.
I think if used right this will reduce the amount of extra post, but of course it won't stop the thanks for particular reasons since those need to be explained.

Now, if only there was a way to subscribe to threads without posting in it... (not email notifications, though)
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: Muttley Snickers on April 05, 2016, 03:08:11 am
Confirmed, I made a temporary post requesting that somebody thank it and once thanked I then deleted the post yet the thanked count in my profile incremented and was retained even after the post was removed, the particular thanked post showed up in the relevant list and is now gone.

Probably only relevant if a couple of silly people wanted to play tag team and then delete their posts.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: ataradov on April 05, 2016, 03:09:51 am
"There was an error while thanking Thanking..." still appears on mobile devices.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: MarvinTheMartian on April 05, 2016, 03:14:03 am
Probably only relevant if a couple of silly people wanted to play tag team and then delete their posts.
Would they be the lonely souls desperate for attention?  :-//
Please, please, please thank me.  :phew:
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: SeanB on April 05, 2016, 04:52:07 am
Probably only relevant if a couple of silly people wanted to play tag team and then delete their posts.
Would they be the lonely souls desperate for attention?  :-//
Please, please, please thank me.  :phew:

Just this once Marvin, or you will explode..........
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: MarvinTheMartian on April 05, 2016, 04:57:06 am
Just this once Marvin, or you will explode..........
My head was starting to swell dangerously but I feel much better now SeanB!  ;)  :-DD
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: BravoV on April 05, 2016, 07:27:57 am
For sure, I love this feature as it serves as a handy online bookmark that is saved in my forum's profile, down to a specific single post that I'm interested or valued.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: tautech on April 05, 2016, 08:22:27 am
For sure, I love this feature as it serves as a handy online bookmark that is saved in my forum's profile, down to a specific single post that I'm interested or valued.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention, it is truly useful.
Profile Info/Show Posts/
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: EEVblog on April 05, 2016, 10:00:14 am
For sure, I love this feature as it serves as a handy online bookmark that is saved in my forum's profile, down to a specific single post that I'm interested or valued.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention, it is truly useful.
Profile Info/Show Posts/

I hadn't noticed that, nice.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: Halcyon on April 06, 2016, 04:41:26 am
A small bug I've discovered with the "Thanking" feature: On mobile browsers (I've tried both Firefox and Chrome) there is an error at the bottom of the last post stating "There was an error while thanking Thanking...", regardless of what page you're viewing. It seems it's not specific to any post or user, it just always the last post on the page you're viewing. Doesn't matter if you've thanked anyone or not, it's just always there.

Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: Bud on April 06, 2016, 04:47:52 am
On iPhone 5 I do not see the error using Safari browser, but I see it if I use Dolphin browser.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: tautech on November 23, 2017, 02:58:40 am
For some time through the gratitude of this community I have received so many thanks as to lead other members in this show of gratitude.
Thanks to all that have appreciated my efforts as I hand over the lead to Ian.M  :clap:

We have a wonderful group of members with great knowledge that they share freely with others.  :clap:  :clap:
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: tautech on November 01, 2018, 07:46:25 am
Following the previous post and nudging ahead of Ian.M again for a while we now have a very worthy new leader of the thanks/likes list; T3sl4co1l
Having noticed this young and extremely bright Tim shortly after he joined and the great help he's been to many on this forum, I and no doubt many of you too congratulate him for his achievements.  :clap:

Many thanks Tim, keep up the great contribution.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: rsjsouza on November 01, 2018, 12:13:19 pm
Congratulations Tim!
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: tautech on June 03, 2019, 07:47:35 am
Just noticed Dave has made each member's received Thanks visible to everybody.

Good or bad ?

Other forums do this, is EEVblog just following their lead or is their some call for members to work harder to gain more thanks ?  :horse:
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: rsjsouza on June 03, 2019, 09:48:05 am
Do you mean the footnote that says "The following users thanked this post:"? If so, this always showed for me, except in the mobile version of the site.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: wilfred on June 03, 2019, 10:12:09 am
I've always seen that footnote where people who thanked a post are shown.

I tend to use the thanks when I see someone has put an effort in to help someone. But I see it get use to say " I agree with this" which is less valuable to the recipient and devalues the thanks others receive.

We need an "I agree" button.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: StillTrying on June 03, 2019, 10:18:17 am
Do you mean the footnote that says "The following users thanked this post:"? If so, this always showed for me, except in the mobile version of the site.

It's now under the flag of every post, it took me a while to find it. :)
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: rsjsouza on June 03, 2019, 10:26:26 am
I see there. Thank you! (and properly thanked by the thanking button!)
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: StillTrying on June 03, 2019, 10:31:44 am
We need an "I agree" button.

I agree. :)
Like many, I sometimes use the thanks as an "I Agree".
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: wilfred on June 03, 2019, 10:34:22 am
 :D  That took longer than I thought it would.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: StillTrying on June 03, 2019, 10:45:42 am
That took longer than I thought it would.

That could be another button, to be used on nearly every repair, project, experiment, question, or thread. :popcorn:
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: Muttley Snickers on June 03, 2019, 12:23:39 pm
Thanks counter disabled.

It would appear that the counter display has been inadvertently enabled again, perhaps a result of other recent configuration changes.
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: ebastler on June 03, 2019, 04:58:57 pm
Just noticed Dave has made each member's received Thanks visible to everybody.
Good or bad ?

You mean the number of thanked posts, displayed on the user's profile summary page? I am pretty sure this has been visible for years.

I rarely look at it, but sometimes I do -- e.g. when I find someone's posts irritating and ask myself "is it just me?". Usually a rather low thanks-per-posts ratio confirms that others did not find too much value in thoses posts... So yes, I find the information useful (occasionally).
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: tautech on June 03, 2019, 07:38:05 pm
Do you mean the footnote that says "The following users thanked this post:"? If so, this always showed for me, except in the mobile version of the site.
No not that.
The total thanks received by each member was visible below our country flag and our total post count.
Seems the feature has been turned OFF again so it's back to normal programming..............  :)
Title: Re: You Can Now Thank Posters
Post by: Gyro on June 03, 2019, 08:19:44 pm
I rarely look at it, but sometimes I do -- e.g. when I find someone's posts irritating and ask myself "is it just me?". Usually a rather low thanks-per-posts ratio confirms that others did not find too much value in thoses posts... So yes, I find the information useful (occasionally).

Ooh yes, a pre-calculated thanks-per-post figure (saving the maths) would be good. A sort of figure of merit.  :D