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SiliconWizard:

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--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on July 21, 2021, 05:38:51 pm ---As I said, I personally think that the best languages for teaching programming are those that are specifically designed for this task. In CS teaching history, if you think about it, the languages that were most successful for teaching all were designed in universities, often by professors and their teams. OTOH, those languages were often not quite fit for "industrial use", so to speak. Conversely, languages designed in industrial settings have been a better fit for real-world use, but poorer for teaching. Yes, even Java - I'm not very fond of it, and I'm not too convinced it's all that good for teaching. Sure there are worse alternatives out there. Python is definitely one IMO.

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Python has the very great advantage over Java of being able to write a simple program e.g. HelloWorld in a single line of code, without ten lines of boilerplate code that that won't be and can't be explained until you know much more about the language. C is worse than Python in that, but a lot better than Java.
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Well, frankly, if all it has going for it is that it will take a couple fewer lines to write an Hello World program, huh...  ;D
Sure some languages just take a one-liner for this. Basic was one of them. That doesn't make them particularly good languages as such. I understand that it makes the very first hours of learning programming, for someone who has never been exposed to it, easier.

Otherwise, I agree with your other points about Python.
I personally sum up my view of it like so: Python is a great tool, but very poor as a programming language. Teaching it as a now widely-used tool is fine. Using it for teaching the fundamentals of programming and good programming practices is uh... not.

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