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Re: 14.4V ground reference for ADC
« Reply #75 on: May 30, 2019, 06:37:16 am »
Your reference outputs 10mA, I doubt any DAC input wants moro than that. read carefully any notes about the output capacitor value and type required.
 
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Re: 14.4V ground reference for ADC
« Reply #76 on: May 30, 2019, 06:38:39 am »
I was looking at the datasheet and it says input vref impeadance = 165KΩ So 2.048/165K = 12.412µA
 

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Re: 14.4V ground reference for ADC
« Reply #77 on: May 30, 2019, 06:39:21 am »
of the dac
 

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Re: 14.4V ground reference for ADC
« Reply #78 on: May 30, 2019, 06:40:04 am »
so it will be ok :-+
 

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Re: 14.4V ground reference for ADC
« Reply #79 on: May 30, 2019, 06:41:23 am »
OK so now just make sure you setup the reference correctly. read the whole datasheet and make sure you pick up on any requirements for your application.
 
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Re: 14.4V ground reference for ADC
« Reply #80 on: May 30, 2019, 06:43:09 am »
The DAC has a buffered mode :)
I didn't read the datasheet carefully
 

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Re: 14.4V ground reference for ADC
« Reply #81 on: May 30, 2019, 06:50:33 am »
Check your frequency response. Sounds like unbuffered is better and you certainly have the drive for it.
 
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Re: 14.4V ground reference for ADC
« Reply #82 on: May 30, 2019, 06:52:49 am »
Check your frequency response. Sounds like unbuffered is better and you certainly have the drive for it.
yeah, i will go with the unbuffered mode because it draws very low current and i don't have to overcomplicate the code for no reason.
 

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Re: 14.4V ground reference for ADC
« Reply #83 on: May 30, 2019, 06:55:19 am »
I don't understand by checking freaquency response, of the DAC or VREF.
Sorry i don't know what it means
Is it this?
 

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Re: 14.4V ground reference for ADC
« Reply #84 on: May 30, 2019, 06:58:10 am »
what is that a graph of? the reference or the DAC?
 
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Re: 14.4V ground reference for ADC
« Reply #85 on: May 30, 2019, 07:01:42 am »
What is this?
20 V peak to peak :o
 

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Re: 14.4V ground reference for ADC
« Reply #86 on: May 30, 2019, 07:02:22 am »
what is that a graph of? the reference or the DAC?
It is the Voltage reference
 

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Re: 14.4V ground reference for ADC
« Reply #87 on: May 30, 2019, 07:09:08 am »
What is this?
20 V peak to peak :o
I think its 10mV/div :o
 

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Re: 14.4V ground reference for ADC
« Reply #88 on: May 30, 2019, 07:15:31 am »
Your link is brocken, but what you do is look at the output current of the voltage reference in it's datasheet and then look up the input current to the voltage reference pin in the datasheet for the DAC.
No it is working.When you click on it it will automatically download the pdf file

No it was brocken and you just edited it! If that is your attitude good luck learninig electronics. Maybe you want to try lego bricks where everything is made for each other and nothing can go wrong!
Sorry it was a mistake i was trying to add a hyperlink, and i was editing what i posted when you replied.
I didn't know how to add a hyperlink.That's why the link is broken
 

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Re: 14.4V ground reference for ADC
« Reply #89 on: May 30, 2019, 07:17:21 am »
What can i do about the noise?
Any circuit?
 

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Re: 14.4V ground reference for ADC
« Reply #90 on: May 30, 2019, 07:21:10 am »
Found something from TI
Here it is
 

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Re: 14.4V ground reference for ADC
« Reply #91 on: May 30, 2019, 07:31:03 am »
But it requires a precision opamp :(
 

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Re: 14.4V ground reference for ADC
« Reply #92 on: May 30, 2019, 07:36:25 am »
Is this enough a 10µF tantulum and 100nF ceramic cap on  the output??
 

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Re: 14.4V ground reference for ADC
« Reply #93 on: May 30, 2019, 07:44:07 am »
Found this on the datasheet of the VREF.Is this enough for filtering??
 

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Re: 14.4V ground reference for ADC
« Reply #94 on: May 30, 2019, 09:42:04 am »
But look what it says on the electrical characteristics.I think it is 10µV/div
 

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Re: 14.4V ground reference for ADC
« Reply #95 on: May 30, 2019, 09:54:16 am »
So i think i will stick with this voltage reference.
 

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Re: 14.4V ground reference for ADC
« Reply #96 on: May 30, 2019, 10:09:06 am »
Your reference outputs 10mA, I doubt any DAC input wants moro than that. read carefully any notes about the output capacitor value and type required.
REF 3120 does not require a output bypass capacitor.Only a supply bypass of more than 0.47µF.
I am going to still add a 10µF tantulum and 100nF ceramic cap to input and output for extra stability and noise reduction.
 

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Re: 14.4V ground reference for ADC
« Reply #97 on: May 30, 2019, 10:15:15 am »
IT requires a 100nF cap. for supply bypass.
 

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Re: 14.4V ground reference for ADC
« Reply #98 on: May 30, 2019, 11:47:50 am »
Yes just follow the datasheets recomendations. You are drawing µA not mA so you don't need to go heavy handed on the output capacitance. Filtering it is not a bad idea.
 
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Re: 14.4V ground reference for ADC
« Reply #99 on: May 30, 2019, 11:50:05 am »
Yes just follow the datasheets recomendations. You are drawing µA not mA so you don't need to go heavy handed on the output capacitance. Filtering it is not a bad idea.
So i will put only a 100nF bypass cap at the output.
 


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