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30V/5A SMPS IC tips/ideas?
« on: January 18, 2015, 01:09:56 am »
So a while back, I was debating on whether I wanted to buy a bench supply or build one myself.  I didn't like the prices for my local offerings, so I was considering making a supply myself using something like the LT3080/3083, that was until the whole thing about the regulator being a bad design or something.  At any rate, I got busy, had to move, and it got put on the backburner with all my other projects.

Anyways, I wanted to dig up the bench supply idea again, and thought about going the SMPS route.  I'm still looking to have the supply operate at 0-30V/0-5A, so I'll need something I can parallel up in buck or buck-boost mode.  I had a look at Maxim, TI and OnSemi, but sadly I'm still lost.  Some of these IC's have all sorts of features that I probably don't need (ULVO, soft start, on/off control, auto restart), or their voltage or current output are too low for my design intentions.

Anyone got tips for choosing a SMPS IC?  Thanks  :-+

(Yes I know I should probably just buy a bench supply at this point, but I don't have any decent local stores, and shipping can be expensive, even in Canada, especially if it's imported from the US and I have to pay duty...  ugh I hate shipping.)  :P

edit: doesn't help when sites like Mouser list an IC as having 3A output, to read the data sheet and find out it's only good for 100mA.  TL5001, I'm looking at you...  |O

edit: actually, I think I may have figured it out...  I can use the LM2678 to get to 30V if I use a voltage divider on the feedback pin and group the outputs together between the LC circuit and the feedback resistors.  :palm:
« Last Edit: January 18, 2015, 02:06:03 am by justanothercanuck »
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Re: 30V/5A SMPS IC tips/ideas?
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2015, 02:54:45 am »
I was going to buy a 120V to 48V/250W transformer, and do full wave rectification.  Should be enough headroom to run the IC's at the full 30V output, and even if it's not, I probably won't need the full 30V enough for it to matter.

On the other hand, I'm looking at part prices...  the IC's are $7 a piece (x2 if I want 5A without running them at full blast), a transformer is like $115 (let alone the shipping for something that almost weighs 10lbs - edit: $46 shipping??  Get out of here...)  Starts getting into the pricey territory, but I would have had to buy the transformer either way I suppose.  :-//
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Re: 30V/5A SMPS IC tips/ideas?
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2015, 07:19:50 am »
I was going to buy a 120V to 48V/250W transformer, and do full wave rectification.  Should be enough headroom to run the IC's at the full 30V output, and even if it's not, I probably won't need the full 30V enough for it to matter.

On the other hand, I'm looking at part prices...  the IC's are $7 a piece (x2 if I want 5A without running them at full blast), a transformer is like $115 (let alone the shipping for something that almost weighs 10lbs - edit: $46 shipping??  Get out of here...)  Starts getting into the pricey territory, but I would have had to buy the transformer either way I suppose.  :-//

36V/250VA is probably enough, you'll get about 50V after rectification/filtering at no load assuming a 120V input. If you're running the whole thing without a switchmode pre-regulator expect to spend some $$$ on a beefy heatsink and a truckload of output transistors...
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Re: 30V/5A SMPS IC tips/ideas?
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2015, 07:30:55 am »
I know building one seems like a lot of fun and all and you *could* save some money, but really i'd just get one of these and be done with it.
 

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Re: 30V/5A SMPS IC tips/ideas?
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2015, 03:21:30 pm »
I know building one seems like a lot of fun and all and you *could* save some money, but really i'd just get one of these and be done with it.

Yeah, I know.

Why are the output posts on the back?  :palm:
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Re: 30V/5A SMPS IC tips/ideas?
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2015, 11:27:33 pm »
Why are the output posts on the back?  :palm:
So they could fit their big fat logo :palm:
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Re: 30V/5A SMPS IC tips/ideas?
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2015, 05:11:23 am »
This might fit the bill for me...

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/ZXY6010S-DC-Constant-Voltage-Current-Power-Supply-Module-60V-10A-600W-w-TTL-/111020252080
http://www.mhinstek.com/product/html/?98.html

For all I know, it's a piece of crap, but it's only ~$100 and all I would need is a reasonably-sized wall-wart to power it.

I was looking at their B3008, but apparently :palm:
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Re: 30V/5A SMPS IC tips/ideas?
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2015, 06:28:19 am »
Instead of an iron core transformer, how about a high quality laptop charger? Most of these are 19 at various output powers.

A buck boost with digital pot feedback would be a great addition
 

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Re: 30V/5A SMPS IC tips/ideas?
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2015, 07:59:28 am »
Instead of an iron core transformer, how about a high quality laptop charger? Most of these are 19 at various output powers.

A buck boost with digital pot feedback would be a great addition
Laptop chargers usually output less than 100W, unless it's a gaming laptop, but those don't really go above 150W.
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