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Another Audiphile Question:Speaker Question: Inside port, High Pass filter?

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DW1961:

--- Quote from: tooki on August 05, 2020, 09:16:52 am ---That’s kinda my take on Bose, too. It’s not that they’re bad, it’s just that you can do a lot better for the price. But the Bose sound is very approachable, and honestly, I’ve been known to recommend them to people that I know won’t take the time to go to a serious hi-fi store to audition real gear to find the perfect speaker/headphone, and who aren’t pressed for cash.

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Just wanted to sway that Bose does make some crappy quality SHIT too. I owned two of the lifestyle systems. The first one was the shoe box sized Lifestyle 3 (circa1996) I think with one little shoe box "bass module" and two tiny satellite speakers. I still have a set of the speakers in my closet.  Damn, those things would crank. However, the receiver part was total crap. Man, you could buy a better CD payer for 20 bucks. Same thing with the 2005 Lifestyle 20 something. Totally crap receiver area, and the speakers weren't even as nice as the older model.

Those first generation little satellites/shoebox bass module package really did crank though for their size. I have never understood how Bose cold fake how much bass you were getting out of that little idiot box--lol. My friends were always amazed when they heard them, and that was back when I primarily listened to rock. I probably sold more of those first gen systems than the Bose marketing department, just by playing music when friends would come over.  I had the bass module behind the couch, and the satellites camouflaged on the walls. You couldn't see any stereo system at all.  They were just paper tweets and a paper woof. Just cheap as crap, but somehow they got some damn big sound out of that little package.

But, yeah, the receiver section was just really bad. It operated like a Playskool kid stereo.

tooki:

--- Quote from: DW1961 on August 06, 2020, 05:31:36 am ---
--- Quote from: tooki on August 05, 2020, 09:16:52 am ---That’s kinda my take on Bose, too. It’s not that they’re bad, it’s just that you can do a lot better for the price. But the Bose sound is very approachable, and honestly, I’ve been known to recommend them to people that I know won’t take the time to go to a serious hi-fi store to audition real gear to find the perfect speaker/headphone, and who aren’t pressed for cash.

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Back in the 70s, it was different. The Bose 901, which could be argued was not consumer level, was way, way out in front of the competition. I'll tell you a little story.

Back around 1981 my friend and I both had Yamaha RD/Daytona 400 two stroke cafe racers. We were out on Friday night, and we were going to his brother in laws to score a joint. So we're tearing down the back roads, and he pulls over about 300 yards from his brother in laws, down the same street. He says, "hey, turn off your bike. So I sitting there thing "WTF, let's go." He says, "Listen. Do you hear it?' And, I'm like, "Uh yea, sound like someone is having a party with a live band." He laughed, and said, yeah, that's Wiggie's (His bro in always nic name) and Kim's (his sister) party. Casey (friend) brought over his 901s he got back in 1968, after he came back from Vietnam."

I mean, you could hear those things clearly 300 yards away--no, not the bass, they weren't bass speakers anyway--but the horns of Steely Dan, OMG! I mean, it sounded like live music. If I remember correctly, those old 901s didn't have any peak power or continuous power rating on them. They just said something like "feed them tons of power. The more the louder they will get."

LOOK WHAT I FOUND! From the Bose Website, the 1968-72 original Bose spec sheet, or owners' manual, cause you know, this is all you need to F-iing know about the 1968-72 901:
901 Direct/Reflecting speaker system: Sold from 1968 - 1973
https://assets.bose.com/content/dam/Bose_DAM/Web/consumer_electronics/global/products/speakers/901_DirectReflecting_speaker_system_series1/pdf/owg_en_901_series1.pdf
https://www.bose.com/en_us/support/products/bose_speakers_support/bose_stereo_support/901_series1.html
This is it, not graphs, nothing.
(Attachment Link)

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This old article (the part after the modern intro) says each of the 9 speaker drivers in the unit is rated for 30W, so 270W total, and that Bose recommended 20-200W amps: https://www.soundandvision.com/content/flashback-1968-bose-901-speaker-system

DW1961:

--- Quote from: tooki on August 06, 2020, 11:21:58 pm ---
--- Quote from: DW1961 on August 06, 2020, 05:31:36 am ---
--- Quote from: tooki on August 05, 2020, 09:16:52 am ---That’s kinda my take on Bose, too. It’s not that they’re bad, it’s just that you can do a lot better for the price. But the Bose sound is very approachable, and honestly, I’ve been known to recommend them to people that I know won’t take the time to go to a serious hi-fi store to audition real gear to find the perfect speaker/headphone, and who aren’t pressed for cash.

--- End quote ---

Back in the 70s, it was different. The Bose 901, which could be argued was not consumer level, was way, way out in front of the competition. I'll tell you a little story.

Back around 1981 my friend and I both had Yamaha RD/Daytona 400 two stroke cafe racers. We were out on Friday night, and we were going to his brother in laws to score a joint. So we're tearing down the back roads, and he pulls over about 300 yards from his brother in laws, down the same street. He says, "hey, turn off your bike. So I sitting there thing "WTF, let's go." He says, "Listen. Do you hear it?' And, I'm like, "Uh yea, sound like someone is having a party with a live band." He laughed, and said, yeah, that's Wiggie's (His bro in always nic name) and Kim's (his sister) party. Casey (friend) brought over his 901s he got back in 1968, after he came back from Vietnam."

I mean, you could hear those things clearly 300 yards away--no, not the bass, they weren't bass speakers anyway--but the horns of Steely Dan, OMG! I mean, it sounded like live music. If I remember correctly, those old 901s didn't have any peak power or continuous power rating on them. They just said something like "feed them tons of power. The more the louder they will get."

LOOK WHAT I FOUND! From the Bose Website, the 1968-72 original Bose spec sheet, or owners' manual, cause you know, this is all you need to F-iing know about the 1968-72 901:
901 Direct/Reflecting speaker system: Sold from 1968 - 1973
https://assets.bose.com/content/dam/Bose_DAM/Web/consumer_electronics/global/products/speakers/901_DirectReflecting_speaker_system_series1/pdf/owg_en_901_series1.pdf
https://www.bose.com/en_us/support/products/bose_speakers_support/bose_stereo_support/901_series1.html
This is it, not graphs, nothing.
(Attachment Link)

--- End quote ---
This old article (the part after the modern intro) says each of the 9 speaker drivers in the unit is rated for 30W, so 270W total, and that Bose recommended 20-200W amps: https://www.soundandvision.com/content/flashback-1968-bose-901-speaker-system

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Interesting, 20-270 watts. Is that per side? Either way, that's a lot of space for power. Damn. Those things had to be bullet proof.

tooki:
Per channel. Each speaker had 9 drivers at 30W each.

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