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Switching series to pararell
« on: April 18, 2023, 04:35:14 pm »
I have a set of 5 resistors in series in a circuit with a 10v power supply. I want to have them pararell by flipping a switch (and off course also the other way around).
The transition should be as clean as possible, preferably first disconnecting the power. What is the way to do this?
 

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Re: Switching series to pararell
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2023, 05:10:56 pm »
You want all 5 in series to switch to all 5 in parallel? You could do it fairly easily with relays.

Is there a reason you can't just have two separate groups of resistors or even just two resistors, one equivalent to the 5 you have in series and another equivalent to the 5 in parallel? If that would work then it would be easier to do.
 

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Re: Switching series to pararell
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2023, 05:17:31 pm »
Why do you need them to be the same 5 resistors? Couldn't you put another 5 resistors in parallel and switch between them?
 

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Re: Switching series to pararell
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2023, 05:34:37 pm »
 

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Re: Switching series to pararell
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Re: Switching series to pararell
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2023, 05:47:08 pm »
What values are the resistors? Analogue switches are only any good for low currents. Relays are required for high currents.
 

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Re: Switching series to pararell
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2023, 05:48:05 pm »
You want all 5 in series to switch to all 5 in parallel? You could do it fairly easily with relays.

Is there a reason you can't just have two separate groups of resistors or even just two resistors, one equivalent to the 5 you have in series and another equivalent to the 5 in parallel? If that would work then it would be easier to do.
Yes there is a reason: the whole contraption will work either as a set of reference resistors (where you can choose to set your measuring tips) or with the 10V power (precision) supply the same set of resistors can generate a precision current, all in a handy little box.

Version 2  of the contraption will  expand on that with a set of capacitors and inductors that can be connected either in series/independent/parallel (as displayed in ).
 

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Re: Switching series to pararell
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2023, 05:49:58 pm »
What values are the resistors? Analogue switches are only any good for low currents. Relays are required for high currents.
The resistors are precision SMD resistors ranging from 100 ohms to 10M ohm
 

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Re: Switching series to pararell
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2023, 06:07:17 pm »
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Analogue switches are only any good for low currents
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guess 630A is low current for a 4 pole double throw switch
 

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Re: Switching series to pararell
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2023, 06:25:05 pm »
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Analogue switches are only any good for low currents
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guess 630A is low current for a 4 pole double throw switch


What does that have to do with analog switch ICs?
 

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Re: Switching series to pararell
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2023, 06:26:01 pm »
I think making 5 series resistors into 5 parallel resistors is a bit complex and expensive. It is cheaper to duplicate resistors, unless they are of extremely high quality.

An interesting projects:
https://hackaday.com/2020/05/25/a-diy-electronics-lab-you-can-show-off-with-pride/
http://conradhoffman.com/mini_metro_lab.html
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Re: Switching series to pararell
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2023, 06:34:05 pm »
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What does that have to do with analog switch ICs?
not a lot,however the quote i quoted made no mention of ic,in case you missed it

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Re: Switching series to pararell
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2023, 07:57:06 pm »
not a lot,however the quote i quoted made no mention of ic,in case you missed it

An "analog switch" is an IC, I've never heard a mechanical switch referred to as an analog switch. Context matters, and from the context it is obvious what he was referring to.
 

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Re: Switching series to pararell
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2023, 06:19:59 am »
This seems like all you'd need is a 4 pole single throw switch.  If you draw the resistors in a zig-zag, you have two gaps to close on each side to make them all parallel.  This does not address your "preferably turning off first" issue, but I think that's asking a lot.  Maybe you need a 5 pole switch. 
 
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Re: Switching series to pararell
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2023, 11:35:24 am »
This seems like all you'd need is a 4 pole single throw switch.  If you draw the resistors in a zig-zag, you have two gaps to close on each side to make them all parallel.  This does not address your "preferably turning off first" issue, but I think that's asking a lot.  Maybe you need a 5 pole switch.
Thanks.
Indeed I was tinkering/experimenting with a 4 pole switch, and the "turning off" aspect is troubling me.
 


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