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Title: [CRIMPERS] Engineer PAD-01 vs PA-09 models
Post by: eliocor on October 04, 2017, 08:48:11 pm
I'm the lucky owner of an Engineer PA-09 (http://www.engineer.jp/en/products/pa09e.html) crimper and I was thinking to buy also the PA-21 (http://www.engineer.jp/en/products/pa21e.html) unit, but I discovered that they produce also the PAD-01 (http://www.engineer.jp/en/products/pad11_13e.html) bundle (at the end of page):
PAD-01 can be find at a reasonable price at HobbyKing: about 89€ (https://hobbyking.com/en_us/handy-crimp-tool-complete-set.html?___store=en_us)

- Have someone of you used the (PAD-11 + PAD-12 + PAD-13) = PAD-01 crimper? If yes, what are you opinions?
- How does PAD-01 compare against PA-09/PA-21 combination?

Any suggestions/comparisons/comments are welcome!

.    TIA
_      Elio.

[added later] In general I use a single family of connectors for every project (maybe with different pin counts) so I will not need to change dies every so often.

PA-21:
(http://www.engineer.jp/_products/pa21/p/PA-21.jpg)
PA-09:
(http://www.engineer.jp/_products/pa09/p/pa09_new.jpg)
PAD-01:
(http://www.engineer.jp/uploads/image/products_new/PADseries/PAD-01.jpg)
PAD-11:
(http://www.engineer.jp/uploads/image/products_new/PADseries/PAD-11.jpg)
Title: Re: Engineer PAD-01 vs PA-09 crimpers
Post by: Tomorokoshi on October 04, 2017, 11:50:45 pm
I bought the PA-09, PA-20, and PA-21 tools after having the same problem.

I decided on three tools to avoid having to change the jaws out. It also makes for a lighter, more compact tool. Additionally, in case I ever get in a situation where I need to work sizes across two different jaw sets at the same time, I would be better off with the separate tools.

I like them overall. It would be nice if the crimping surface was deeper to better work with larger pins. As it is I just need to crimp 3 times: twice for the wire, and once for the insulation. Note that it splits the wire crimp. Otherwise it seems to hold just fine.
Title: Re: Engineer PAD-01 vs PA-09 crimpers
Post by: nanofrog on October 05, 2017, 12:53:30 am
I've not had access to any of the PAD models, but based on specs, it will be able to do more connectors than the combination of a PA-09 & PA-21 due to the third die. And as it's longer, will do the small and medium sized connectors with less strain/fatigue.

It's also a better bargain given the number of terminals it can do, and the fact it has a case is a nice addition as well IMHO.
Title: Re: [CRIMPERS] Engineer PAD-01 vs PA-09 models
Post by: ChuckDarwin on October 06, 2017, 02:43:38 pm
For small crimps I found the smaller head and frame of the PA more comfortable to use than the PAD frame, but you have that covered already. 
The PAD kit is a good investement if you want to cover a decent range. It goes beyond the PA 9/20/21 on the large end, and has more leverage.  Watch your fingers on the wire cutter.  For doing a lot of crimps, finding a full width ratcheting tool is a better, but a more expensive, way to go.

Take into consideration that cross the tools, there is often a design difference in crimp height and thickness for the same noted crimp width, affecting wire capacity and crimped length.  Check the charts at  http://www.engineer.jp/en/products/pa09e.html (http://www.engineer.jp/en/products/pa09e.html). For the smaller die sizes, this may alter what tool you decide on.