The Doubt about overunity is OVER!!!

[BlueBill]

I wish I had more tolerance for this overunity crap, but I don't.

[DanielS]

You can hear the pitch of the saw motor change when he turns the heaters on/off. That indicates the AC voltage changed. Sounds like his line transformer is simply acting as a large ballast inductor, preventing current from exceeding 30A.

"300kg, that's a lot of copper, aluminum and iron to fill up" - guess the guy has no clue how electromagnetism works, as you would expect from someone who believes in over-unity.

[Sbampato12]

One of my favourite videos..

Partly the scale of it, a good few tonnes of steel there, but also the funky music. Makes more sense than some crazy guy "explaining"!   

Sadly, the video ends before they demonstrate it working. Funny thing is, during construction no-one seems to take precaution against the machine spontaneously starting operation (gravity is always ON where I come from) ... almost like they knew it wouldn't work. 

it's for real....IN BRAZIL!!!

I swear even I'm living near, it is not my fault... 
I don't decided what is worst, the video or the 'music'....

[TunerSandwich]

I find these overunity videos amazingly entertaining......I rarely get so many laughs out of any other form of comedy

[ModemHead]

I find these overunity videos amazingly entertaining...

I find the stuff amusing and disheartening all at the same time.  There must be a fundamental failure in science education somewhere.

This Morin character's rantings are so laughable, he's not even wrong.  He measures current in his house's neutral conductor and concludes that the power company is stealing the energy back that he paid for, in order to sell it to him again.  His Ideal clamp meter is a geiger counter that measures "radiation", 'cuz amps is radiation, you know?  The back-to-back pole-pig stuff is silly and dangerous.  I smell a Darwin award, or is that barbeque?

But get this, he has true believers ready to spend time and money to get a piece of this ground-breaking technology: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/19923-gerard-morin-energy.html  (TL;DR The believers are collecting money to buy pole pigs and certain model generators that make a special kind of electricity or somesuch.)  Ugh.

[DanielS]

(TL;DR The believers are collecting money to buy pole pigs and certain model generators that make a special kind of electricity or somesuch.)  Ugh.

Need to fill 'em with "cold radiation."

he seems to be surprisingly careless around those 14kV distribution transformers... I would not go anywhere near those top terminals with ~120VAC applied on the secondary if the setup really is how it appears to be but he casually held a clamp-meter on it - I was really expecting him to get a serious zap there. If he did not fry himself by practically touching a presumably live high-voltage terminal, something must not be right.

[Circlotron]

The music right at the very end was nice. Everything else was just hopeless, absolutely hopeless.

[TunerSandwich]

I find these overunity videos amazingly entertaining...

I find the stuff amusing and disheartening all at the same time.  There must be a fundamental failure in science education somewhere.

This Morin character's rantings are so laughable, he's not even wrong.  He measures current in his house's neutral conductor and concludes that the power company is stealing the energy back that he paid for, in order to sell it to him again.  His Ideal clamp meter is a geiger counter that measures "radiation", 'cuz amps is radiation, you know?  The back-to-back pole-pig stuff is silly and dangerous.  I smell a Darwin award, or is that barbeque?

But get this, he has true believers ready to spend time and money to get a piece of this ground-breaking technology: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/19923-gerard-morin-energy.html  (TL;DR The believers are collecting money to buy pole pigs and certain model generators that make a special kind of electricity or somesuch.)  Ugh.

I can say, without doubt, that the lack of science emphasis in the US educational system is simply shocking....outrageous....and downright criminal...I am not sure how it is in other countries, but judging by the quantity of foreign nationals that attend college in the USA, i have to imagine they are FAR more educated in science and engineering than most natural citizens here....our systems seem to cater to learning to "sell" nonsense...rather than practicing fact....where Mr. Morin learned this, I'm not sure, but its' the same ole' bullshit....

At some point I have just learned to laugh it off....because if you step back, knowing even the most basic things about the natural world....MR. Morins irrational rantings are utterly hilarious....honestly where does he come up with this stuff.....it's especially funny when he stumbles over his own bullshit, and uses an established scientific principle, then tries to back track and explain something very simple...in a totally circular, off the cuff rant about conspiracy etc etc etc....he continually proves science and physics work (as established) and then spends the rest of the video trying to talk his way out of what he just proved....now THAT is funny....it's like watching a trainwreck....

The only part that pisses me off, is when he cites the great Nikola Tesla, and claims to be using his research and following in his footsteps.....that is genuinely foul, as Nikola Tesla was a scientist (although a total nut case) and made great contributions to our understanding of our universe....but even then I find some humor, because Morin clearly understands NOTHING about Alternating Current.....

[TunerSandwich]

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he seems to be surprisingly careless around those 14kV distribution transformers...

i totally thought something hilarious was going to happen as he reached that clamp meter up towards the bare HV line.....he is one seriously lucky guy....

[senso]

It must be a genetic/name thing, all the over-unity guys have "strange" sounding names, I think we need a whack-job to create a theory about names and their influence on how illuminated you are.

[Ebivetar]

Must be Canada... the cold does things to the mind. Or is it the cold radiation? 

Clinically speaking, these people are not crazy - but that only means they don't need or wouldn't benefit from medical treatment. But from a science point of view they are technically crazy. Or as one polite scientist put it "I fear to say that this gentleman is under the severest delusion".

LOL at "there is no such thing as free energy.. " then quickly corrects to say "but we can get out more than we put in".

He seems to even lack a basic understanding of Ohms law.

They were also measuring radiation level with a clamp meter 

Special note: I keep getting emails from people asking how they can help, and how they can donate. My answer is Western Union.. I'm rejecting large sums of money from people, I'm only looking to continue my research, not start a country. I want people to have this technology for free.. not what some of you "investors" keep asking me to do.
Investors have hooks, hooks make the product non-affordable. Too many people grease their paws on the way to the surface.

[donotdespisethesnake]

I find the stuff amusing and disheartening all at the same time.  There must be a fundamental failure in science education somewhere.

That raises an interesting observation. Generally technology is only successful because users do not need to understand how things work. It only takes a relatively few engineers to design and manufacture the products, and billions of people can use it.

It's shame, but it mostly doesn't matter if people don't understand science, although there are a few exceptions, for example, Climate Change, vaccines, those people who don't fly because they don't understand "how planes stay up"!

During the Steorn saga, I hung around sites like PESN.com and overunity.com, there really is a big pool of crackpots out there, it's like a "dark web", where science does not shine it's light...

Historically, there have always been crackpots, probably nowadays less by proportion, but more by number. And they now have the internet, instead of sandwich boards or newsletters printed with spirit duplicators. Some of them even have their own TV news channels.

[BlueBill]

I also spent some brief time over at overunity.com, managed to get threatened, booed and so forth anytime I disputed some random claim.

Seems like some folks thing overunity is possible as long as you don't use too much science, as if education will make it not happen.

[Yago]

The "over unity" holy grail they seek refers to their homo-zygotic properties, one day they, as a people, hope to achieve "multi" status.

They'll have to stop sucking on that "cows" single teat first though!

[ModemHead]

Historically, there have always been crackpots, probably nowadays less by proportion, but more by number. And they now have the internet, instead of sandwich boards or newsletters printed with spirit duplicators. Some of them even have their own TV news channels.

I suppose there will always be crackpots, but the most discouraging part is the number of people willing to buy into a crackpot's claims without a hint of skepticism.  Maybe it comes from a pre-existing disposition based on social, economic, political or religious affinities, but that's a topic for another place and time.



Funny thing is, to make experimentation on the outlandish claims, you have to use those horrible "conventional" methods and devices.  You know, regular math and stuff designed by those poor deluded close-minded college-educated engineers.  Hah!  I guess as long as you convince yourself that *tomorrow* you will hook the output to the input and it will run itself, then the ends justify the means.

Speaking of overunity.com, Google led me there.  For those who followed the thread on Dave's free energy B.S. episode, the infamous "Dave Wing" showed up at overunity.com, apparently feeling a little unsatisfied: http://overunity.com/15475/eevblog-free-energy-b-s/  Surprisingly he got a really good technically sound answer from Nikola Tesla's anagramic namesake, and disappeared.

[donotdespisethesnake]

Speaking of overunity.com, Google led me there.  For those who followed the thread on Dave's free energy B.S. episode, the infamous "Dave Wing" showed up at overunity.com, apparently feeling a little unsatisfied: http://overunity.com/15475/eevblog-free-energy-b-s/  Surprisingly he got a really good technically sound answer from Nikola Tesla's anagramic namesake, and disappeared.

TinselKoala  is a remarkable guy, he also posted as Alsetalokin on Steorn saga. He knows his stuff, is a great experimenter, and seems to have a really thick skin and infinite patience which is a must for dealing with the crackpots. (I managed about 10 minutes )

One thing I find interesting, is that science used to be heresy, going against religious dogma. It was safe ground to believe the authority of Church, risky to talk about science. Now the tables have turned, science is regarded as the authority. Religions and their supporters adopt "sciency" language in an attempt to gain credibility. Crackpots challenge science calling it "dogma", when in fact it is the very opposite of dogma.

One thing did puzzle me about the Morin video. Why was the temperature of the HV insulator apparently lower than ambient? Or was that just incompetence with the temperature sensor?

[BlueBill]

Seems Dave Wing has found a home on Overunity.com. I'm sure he'll be happier there anyway. 

[ModemHead]

One thing did puzzle me about the Morin video. Why was the temperature of the HV insulator apparently lower than ambient? Or was that just incompetence with the temperature sensor?

The EM field surrounding the high voltage link drove the amp clamp crazy.  I have no reason to believe it wouldn't do the same to the thermo.

[TunerSandwich]

when "science" becomes "religion" it is no longer science.....

It's very easy to say that pure science has somehow replaced religion, but that is in fact a skewing and bastardization of the scientific method.  Science is simply a mthod, and it is flawed humans that turn it into a sham....

Science will explain absolutely everything if you give it a chance.....but you have to have your head out of your ass first 

For example I am a scientist and engineer, or at least I try to be objective and practice those methods.....at the same time I believe in a "god" (although I find the bible to be crackpot nonsense).  I have no scientific proof of a "god", but I also have no scientific proof about how the universe and all matter came into being....so I guess we have to pick and choose our battles....maybe my logic is flawed, but eventually practicing the scientific method will sort me out....and if it doesn't "god" will 

[DanielS]

The EM field surrounding the high voltage link drove the amp clamp crazy.  I have no reason to believe it wouldn't do the same to the thermo.

Don't tell that to over-unity nuts - measurement instruments cannot be wrong!

But yeah, I strongly suspect their meters were being messed up by the 3kV/m electric field that should be coming off that thing if the setup is really what it seems to be. As I said earlier, I am really surprised he did not get shocked (or worse) while practically touching that bare high-voltage wire.

[void_error]

At around he mentions the almighty vacuum - nowadays a must have in the overunity... erm... can't call it anything but bullshit . Still funny though. Wondering if it's of quantum type or just regular one

[Circlotron]

Here's a bit of entertainment
http://www.crank.net/
And the best of them all (that seems to have disappeared)
http://web.archive.org/web/20150203043518/http://www.timecube.com/