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| james_s:
--- Quote from: David Hess on January 06, 2019, 01:30:12 pm ---It has only gotten worse despite Microsoft's lying assurances since it became a problem. So far I have only needed to set the network configuration to "metered" to prevent inopportune updates and reboots. I become very unhappy the first time a weeks worth of possessing time was lost. Are people expected to even do work on PCs anymore? I hope every person at Microsoft who thought this was a good idea gets lynched. --- End quote --- I wish I could send them a bill for all the time I've spent fixing the issues caused by updates at a machine shop and vet clinic I'm indirectly involved with. Critical systems getting updated to a new OS before the specialized software they run is supported, updates that take place whenever they please, nevermind the fact that shutting down the system that processes payments or stores and retrieves digital xrays and medical data and locking it out for an hour or more at arbitrary times during the business day has a very real cost. I'm not one of those Linux fanboys but that's really starting to look like the only viable way forward. Not so much that Linux on the desktop is amazing, I mean it's ok but not without problems, but Windows has regressed in quality and usability to the point that I can no longer say that it's better. It's a shame too because IMO Win7 is superb, the pinnacle of MS operating system development. The very few issues it has are easily resolved, while 8 and 10 are incredibly user hostile. |
| David Hess:
--- Quote from: Kilrah on January 06, 2019, 10:28:31 pm --- --- Quote from: David Hess on January 05, 2019, 02:18:00 am ---Configure the network interface to a metered connection to stop Windows from downloading updates until you do it manually. --- End quote --- Even better, flip the "don't update for a month" switch... --- End quote --- And then flip it again every month after? And if I forget, random data death? No thanks. Besides which, I have already caught Microsoft flipping it back just a day later. It is computers which are good for rote tasks, not humans. If the computer is delegating rote tasks to the human, then that is the opposite of productivity. Why is it again that Windows Explorer can no longer provide a directory sorted by folder size so I have to do it manually? XP (and I assume everything afterward) had its own set of bad behaviors. What happens when power is lost, so the UPS signals the system to shutdown because only 15 minutes of power remains, and the system responds by installing updates leading to an unplanned shutdown in the middle of the updates? Yea, I'm not bitter. Fuck you Microsoft. |
| Mechatrommer:
Well complaining ms windows wont help anything, there is no better alternative productivity tools wise. You want 90's era dos command line of linux? talking to every productivity usb devices will require some sort of script no? How about everything upside down gui imac? No thanks. windows xp is still the king, nothing matches its file explorer, if i only have one tool, it will be it, all the next generation explorer vista to 10 are all toy... if i have security sensitive materials, i have the latest antivirus, or using proven encryption sw, so even if my system got hacked,all they get is garbage files. I make fresh install image, so next time my system got corrupted, 10 minutes is all it takes to get back all the fresh install sw. And continue work. its a matter of knowing and using the tool. if we have to complain about it then we are using the wrong tool. Ymmv. My protest is i will keep using xp until they make window the way it should be, at least better functionality and productivity compared to xp. But moving away from windows is not an option there is simply no other alternative. |
| Kilrah:
--- Quote from: David Hess on January 07, 2019, 03:37:27 am ---And then flip it again every month after? --- End quote --- Flip it again the next time you need guaranteed "stay on". But if you need that regularly just use group policy to set windows update to "notify only" like before. |
| janoc:
--- Quote from: Kilrah on January 06, 2019, 10:28:31 pm --- --- Quote from: David Hess on January 05, 2019, 02:18:00 am ---Configure the network interface to a metered connection to stop Windows from downloading updates until you do it manually. --- End quote --- Even better, flip the "don't update for a month" switch... --- End quote --- That doesn't actually work reliably and gets regularly reset by Windows. The "Home" version of Windows 10 doesn't even have this option (nor does it have group policy editor), you can only delay the installation of an update - and if you aren't quick to react, it will "helpfully" schedule a reboot for you automatically. |
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