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Offline hifihifiTopic starter

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Tantalium caps and aging
« on: April 24, 2013, 04:41:49 pm »
Are Tantalium caps aging if they are used at high temperatures like 50°C.

Elektrolytic are drying in time.

What is the effect for tantalium caps? or are they "never" aging?

 

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Re: Tantalium caps and aging
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2013, 05:34:26 pm »
wet or dry tantalums ?
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Re: Tantalium caps and aging
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2013, 10:17:55 pm »
They become very leaky, and start to short-out... this can cause slow to sudden power supply failure if used to de-couple pre-amp DC supply rails, normally they take out the DC supply resistors.

Other problems can be audio distortion, un-balancing of channels, low level sound, and intermittent crackling from channels, where Tantalum's are used in the signal processing.
 

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Re: Tantalium caps and aging
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2013, 11:19:18 pm »
Most new tantalums you see/buy today are dry type. They don't suffer from the issues of the wet types that were used in the late 70s/80s era.
 

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Re: Tantalium caps and aging
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2013, 12:06:30 am »
Modern tantalums will let you know if you reverse bias them though. They'll heat up and fail faster than electrolytics in my experience.
 

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Re: Tantalium caps and aging
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2013, 05:09:52 am »
Modern tantalums will let you know if you reverse bias them though. They'll heat up and fail faster than electrolytics in my experience.

Yes, and if I hit my window with a hammer it no longer keeps the rain out. :)

The trick is to use items in a way they were designed to be used, or you may not get the performance you expect. :)
 

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Re: Tantalium caps and aging
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2013, 07:32:30 am »
The trick is to use items in a way they were designed to be used, or you may not get the performance you expect. :)

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Re: Tantalium caps and aging
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2013, 10:15:47 am »
They still make wet tantalums, but their price is... :o
 

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Re: Tantalium caps and aging
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2013, 10:22:58 am »

Yes, and if I hit my window with a hammer it no longer keeps the rain out. :)

The trick is to use items in a way they were designed to be used, or you may not get the performance you expect. :)

:D It's a handy quick failure though, you'll spot it straight after assembly. Sometimes it's better that your window breaks when you hit it than breaking a day later during a blizzard.
 

Offline hifihifiTopic starter

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Re: Tantalium caps and aging
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2013, 12:51:45 pm »
thank for many respons
what about ESR and capacitance over time?
 


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