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Low profile heat sink, 3.6W, closed space
jbb:
So, I had a look at some previous designs. There are some constraints:
- 56V input is quite high
- you need high efficiency at light load (note, many data sheets only talk about shutdown current rather than operating current)
Given those constraints, I would suggest the TI LMR16006 lineup. They aren’t the best and brightest, but they are small and cheerful.
To run Bluetooth, you probably need 100 - 200 mA peak current for the system. Therefore you want a LDO (linear Low DropOut) regulator with 250 - 500 mA rating and low quiescent current. I’ve used the MCP1700T-33 (fixed 3.3V output, 4uA quiescent current) and it seems to work.
The LDO needs some headroom to operate. The MCP1700T datasheet lists a maximum output voltage tolerance of +3% (ie 3.40V) and a dropout voltage of 350mV. That means we need at least 3.75V from our buck regulator.
The buck regulator has tolerances too. I would allow for 3% reference accuracy, 2x 1% feedback resistors and 5% margin. This sums to 10%, so the target buck output voltage should be 3.75 / (100% - 90%) = 4.16V. Say 4.2V for safety.
For 60mA @ 3.3V (198mW) output, we need 60mA @ 4.2V (250mW) from the buck regulator. Expected buck regulator efficiency is around 65% (using Webench from TI), which means buck input power is around 250mW/65% = 384mW, or 7mA. Overall losses are around 186mW, and overall efficiency is around 50%.
BT transmit peaks are short and shouldn’t cause much temperature rise.
While I’m pontificating:
- try to have your BT module and microcontroller sleep as much as possible to reduce average current
- I suggest charging cells to 4.1V to improve cycle life (will reduce energy strorage by 10 - 15%) and slightly reduce fire risk
- make sure that your BMS will be safe even if the BT module starts doing weird stuff (or locks up)
- pleas be careful when handling raw battery packs. Safety glasses suggested (I almost got myself in the eye with a spark last year). Also, the heat shrink over those cells is really thin and easy to scrape through.
elmohandis:
seems like you need a low noise buck converter, like Linear's Silent Switcher.
Bit pricey, but looks decent:
https://www.analog.com/en/products/lt8641.html#product-overview
jonroger:
> with low noise to not affect current measurement
My guess is that your current value can be heavily filtered - making noise from any fast switcher a non-issue.
OM222O:
you will be burning through your battery pack using an LDO ...
use a DC-DC buck converter, followed by a chain of caps (tantalums or electrolytics: 100uF , 10uF, ceramics: 1uF, 100nF, 100pF). this will virtually reduce your noise to nothing. you can also follow it with an LDO if you wish. also an inductor can be used as a chocke if the current consumption of the 3.3V rail is steady. this is probably a huge overkill but should be much better than a massive heatsink and constant battery drain.honestly removing the caps and the choke should also not introduce any massive errors. just follow the buck converter with an LDO.
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