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Electronics => Projects, Designs, and Technical Stuff => Topic started by: perfect_disturbance on July 09, 2013, 03:45:04 pm

Title: Most innovated semiconductor company
Post by: perfect_disturbance on July 09, 2013, 03:45:04 pm
So who does everyone think is the most innovative semi conductor company?  Both digital and analog.
Title: Re: Most innovated semiconductor company
Post by: casper.bang on July 09, 2013, 04:12:42 pm
Intel! But they also have a research budget that dwarfs some countries GPP.
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Post by: Shenandoah on July 09, 2013, 05:25:39 pm
Tektronix or Agilents? They create mysterious RF ADC and uPs.

Intel is a digital design normal speed uPs which is I think not that complex at all.
Title: Re: Most innovated semiconductor company
Post by: roli_bark on July 09, 2013, 05:28:52 pm
Fairchild! . The fathers of all silicon industry leaders that we know today.
Title: Re: Most innovated semiconductor company
Post by: casper.bang on July 09, 2013, 06:03:24 pm
Intel is a digital design normal speed uPs which is I think not that complex at all.

Design is one aspect, manufacturing another. Intel has been so consistent in following through on their tick-tock process roadmap (strained silicon, high-K metal gate, tri-gate etc.) that nobody can really compete with them.
Title: Re: Most innovated semiconductor company
Post by: Shenandoah on July 09, 2013, 06:44:10 pm
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...that nobody can really compete with them.

AMD  ::)
Title: Re: Most innovated semiconductor company
Post by: Alexei.Polkhanov on July 09, 2013, 07:04:03 pm
Definitely none of the big ones. Innovation in hitech, at least in Americas, mostly go this way - 1. Someone at large company has an idea and a. proposes it to management and sees no interest or b. leaves a company and creates a startup based on the idea. 2. Good ideas attract investment and company makes new product. 3. Large monster like Intel or AMD buys successful or potentially successful startup. 4. Go back to step 1.
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Post by: KJDS on July 09, 2013, 08:12:05 pm
Hititte have been the one company consistently coming out with a lot of new products in the RF field for the last few years.
Title: Most innovated semiconductor company
Post by: lgbeno on July 09, 2013, 08:23:51 pm
Fairchild! . The fathers of all silicon industry leaders that we know today.

Read the acquisition history on Fairchild on Wikipedia, the only thing that is the same as the founding company is the name.
Title: Re: Most innovated semiconductor company
Post by: perfect_disturbance on July 09, 2013, 09:49:38 pm
I watched the PBS documentary on Fairchild and their role in starting a lot of the action in silicon valley. Then I started looking at what they have done internally (excluding acquisitions) over the last 5 years I didn't see that much that was really innovative. It seems to me like some other semiconductor companies for example TI or Maxim are releasing more interesting chips lately.
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Post by: Shenandoah on July 09, 2013, 10:05:14 pm
Do they make potato chips?  :-DD
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Post by: G0HZU on July 13, 2013, 11:02:33 pm
For my line of work it would be either Cree or Analog Devices because they make the components that (over the years) have most defined the performance boundaries of the RF products I design. Hittite are pretty good too and also MicroSemi.
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Post by: Spikee on July 13, 2013, 11:06:47 pm
Analog devices has some awesome analog parts. And also Cree has been coming out whit some nice high power led's.
Title: Re: Most innovated semiconductor company
Post by: G0HZU on July 13, 2013, 11:16:14 pm
The Cree products I've used have been from their SiC and GaN RF power transistor range. They also produce some awesomely accurate non linear models for these devices for use with AWR software.

The AD stuff that has impressed the most over the years has been their line of DDS products. Also PLL/VCO chips like the ADF4350 and 4351 have been very useful to me :)
Title: Most innovated semiconductor company
Post by: Fluxed Matter on July 14, 2013, 08:17:05 pm
While Fairchild may not be the leading or current innovator.  Fairchild was one of the first innovators of the semiconductor industry. They basically started everything. From them came the others such as intel, nat semi, amd, intersil, linear, maxim, and many more. Not only did they help create the semiconductor industry but also they were involved in the equipment needed to manufacture and test their integrated circuits.

To answer the question of who is leading innovation I think companies like linear, maxim, and ti.
Title: Re: Most innovated semiconductor company
Post by: cthree on July 15, 2013, 08:45:44 pm
The most innovative semiconductor company is likely one nobody has ever heard of and won't until we read about them being bought by some large semi company.

Funny, technology acquisition in the semi space seems far less pronounced than in the software space. Maybe that's why the semi business has been limping along for more than a decade while software has dominated. Semi fabs seem to function more like big drug companies, all making the same super low margin copies of the same molecules (or chips) and variations of them.

If I had to pick a name everyone knows I'd have to say IBM.
Title: Re: Most innovated semiconductor company
Post by: casper.bang on July 16, 2013, 11:00:03 am
Funny, technology acquisition in the semi space seems far less pronounced than in the software space. Maybe that's why the semi business has been limping along for more than a decade while software has dominated. Semi fabs seem to function more like big drug companies, all making the same super low margin copies of the same molecules (or chips) and variations of them.

That's because two pimpled teens in a garage can push new boundaries when it comes to software, whereas every time a large semiconductor or pharmaceutical manufacturer is finally ready to go into production after 5-10 years of research and testing, they often need to build a brand new multi-billion process factory first.
Title: Re: Most innovated semiconductor company
Post by: deephaven on July 16, 2013, 12:51:16 pm
IBM