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| iMo:
Digikey's or Mouser's $30 boutique price for an FPGA or an ADC (in US or EU) means in practice they buy for $5 in rather small quantities (like 1k). China is a different market - they mess with parts in millions quantities and they buy directly from manufacturers. It also could be the local distributors there are much less greedy than the other boutique shops. |
| ogden:
--- Quote from: imo on January 13, 2020, 03:31:56 pm ---Digikey's or Mouser's $30 boutique price for an FPGA or an ADC (in US or EU) means in practice they buy for $5 in rather small quantities (like 1k). --- End quote --- Digikey/Mouser buy 1K for 5$/piece and sell for 30$ @1qty? I say BS unless you provide proof that I am wrong. Distributors do not work with such insane margins. HMCAD1511 mentioned here: AD list price 46$ @100, Digikey 55$ @100. You may get discount from AD sales, deal depends on you quarterly/yearly volume and your commitment. Shipments most likely will arrive from Digikey or Mouser anyway. |
| iMo:
"List price" means nothing. Everything else is subject to Contracts agreed between the parties and such agreements are usually Confidential :) |
| ogden:
--- Quote from: imo on January 13, 2020, 04:17:54 pm ---"List price" means nothing. Everything else is subject to Contracts agreed between the parties and such agreements are usually Confidential :) --- End quote --- So what you said about pricing means the same: nothing. |
| nctnico:
--- Quote from: ogden on January 13, 2020, 04:02:23 pm --- --- Quote from: imo on January 13, 2020, 03:31:56 pm ---Digikey's or Mouser's $30 boutique price for an FPGA or an ADC (in US or EU) means in practice they buy for $5 in rather small quantities (like 1k). --- End quote --- Digikey/Mouser buy 1K for 5$/piece and sell for 30$ @1qty? I say BS unless you provide proof that I am wrong. Distributors do not work with such insane margins. HMCAD1511 mentioned here: AD list price 46$ @100, Digikey 55$ @100. You may get discount from AD sales, deal depends on you quarterly/yearly volume and your commitment. Shipments most likely will arrive from Digikey or Mouser anyway. --- End quote --- I fully agree. My experience: Once you get into quantities (say >100 pieces) the prices from Digikey, Farnell, Mouser, etc are pretty much the same compared to buying parts from a distributor. The added value of Digikey, Farnell, Mouser, etc is that you can buy small quantities c.q. are not bound to MOQs. Ofcourse you pay a premium for that but who cares for just a few pieces. In some cases that does result in weird pricing. Last time I bought ty-raps from Farnell I ended up buying 1000 pieces because that was cheaper compared to buying 300. When it comes to FPGAs pricing is even more muddy. You have to go to Xilinx with a project and they will give you a price. Recently I have been looking at Zync development boards and some boards are sold at prices below the single quantity prices on Digikey. Not sure what is going on here; maybe chips are sold at a loss to keep the competition away or they may be untested / rejects. |
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