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iMo:
Digikey's or Mouser's $30 boutique price for an FPGA or an ADC (in US or EU) means in practice they buy for $5 in rather small quantities (like 1k). China is a different market - they mess with parts in millions quantities and they buy directly from manufacturers. It also could be the local distributors there are much less greedy than the other boutique shops.

ogden:

--- Quote from: imo on January 13, 2020, 03:31:56 pm ---Digikey's or Mouser's $30 boutique price for an FPGA or an ADC (in US or EU) means in practice they buy for $5 in rather small quantities (like 1k).

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Digikey/Mouser buy 1K for 5$/piece and sell for 30$ @1qty? I say BS unless you provide proof that I am wrong. Distributors do not work with such insane margins. HMCAD1511 mentioned here: AD list price 46$ @100, Digikey 55$ @100. You may get discount from AD sales, deal depends on you quarterly/yearly volume and your commitment. Shipments most likely will arrive from Digikey or Mouser anyway.

iMo:
"List price" means nothing. Everything else is subject to Contracts agreed between the parties and such agreements are usually Confidential :)

ogden:

--- Quote from: imo on January 13, 2020, 04:17:54 pm ---"List price" means nothing. Everything else is subject to Contracts agreed between the parties and such agreements are usually Confidential :)

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So what you said about pricing means the same: nothing.

nctnico:

--- Quote from: ogden on January 13, 2020, 04:02:23 pm ---
--- Quote from: imo on January 13, 2020, 03:31:56 pm ---Digikey's or Mouser's $30 boutique price for an FPGA or an ADC (in US or EU) means in practice they buy for $5 in rather small quantities (like 1k).

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Digikey/Mouser buy 1K for 5$/piece and sell for 30$ @1qty? I say BS unless you provide proof that I am wrong. Distributors do not work with such insane margins. HMCAD1511 mentioned here: AD list price 46$ @100, Digikey 55$ @100. You may get discount from AD sales, deal depends on you quarterly/yearly volume and your commitment. Shipments most likely will arrive from Digikey or Mouser anyway.

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I fully agree. My experience: Once you get into quantities (say >100 pieces) the prices from Digikey, Farnell, Mouser, etc are pretty much the same compared to buying parts from a distributor. The added value of Digikey, Farnell, Mouser, etc is that you can buy small quantities c.q. are not bound to MOQs. Ofcourse you pay a premium for that but who cares for just a few pieces. In some cases that does result in weird pricing. Last time I bought ty-raps from Farnell I ended up buying 1000 pieces because that was cheaper compared to buying 300.

When it comes to FPGAs pricing is even more muddy. You have to go to Xilinx with a project and they will give you a price. Recently I have been looking at Zync development boards and some boards are sold at prices below the single quantity prices on Digikey. Not sure what is going on here; maybe chips are sold at a loss to keep the competition away or they may be untested / rejects.

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