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Offline Red_MicroTopic starter

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Power supply suggestions
« on: June 18, 2021, 02:39:51 am »
Is there a commercial solution for a Power Supply Input = 400VAC input (3 phase), Output = 36VDC, 2.2kW? From a design perspective, what topology is a fit for this requirement? Any literature is welcome.
 

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Re: Power supply suggestions
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2021, 03:03:15 am »
 I presume you want an old school solution.  A three phase transformer with appropriate rectifiers.

The details can vary a lot depending on your specific need, but a Y - to Y set of transformers with full wave rectifiers should do it, although the ripple requirements may mean some hefty capacitors.

See any textbook on AC circuits and/or transformers.
 

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Re: Power supply suggestions
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2021, 07:53:51 am »
Drop us a lot more detail first.

Is this a test fixture for occasional use, casual short term usage (low duty cycle) or 100% duty cycle 36VDC @ circa 60A?

What sort of spec do you need +-0.1VDC ok with a bit of ripple or do you need tight and a few mV and Linear/Low Ripple?

Why three phase? Can you do it with split phase 220V (assuming you are on 110V?) instead?

New or Secondhand?  eBay auction: #264893002059 just about bang on your rough spec. Several available in the USA it seems.
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Re: Power supply suggestions
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2021, 03:21:34 pm »
Do you really need 3 phase for only 2.2kW?

Modern high efficiency designs would use a WBG totem-pole PFC into a high efficiency DC-DC converter, mostly LLC it seems like these days.

Here's a reference design in your ball park: https://www.infineon.com/cms/en/product/evaluation-boards/eval_3kw_50v_psu/
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Re: Power supply suggestions
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2021, 07:53:39 pm »
Is there a commercial solution for a Power Supply Input = 400VAC input (3 phase), Output = 36VDC, 2.2kW?

They are not common. In a chassis mount unit, 2.2 kW doesn't really give much incentive to add the cost and space consumption of a three-phase front end. XP Power makes some three-phase units Like these but not at your voltage spec.

(assuming you need three-phase, say for avoiding unbalance on a small power system), you could perhaps connect three single-phase units so long as their outputs allow parallel operation.

From a design perspective, what topology is a fit for this requirement? Any literature is welcome.

For the front-end, PFC stage, you can use one single-phase PFC per phase if you have a neutral, a Vienna rectifier can be quite suitable (not entirely intuitive to control though) or a three-phase IGBT/MOSFET-bridge boost converter. The DCDC bulk power conversion part would probably be good with a phase-shifted bridge with probably a push-pull secondary can work well, relatively simple to design and easy to control... other approaches can be more efficient.
 


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