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Professional Prototyping Hardware Defined (Breadboard, Jumpers, low R stuff)

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rdl:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/beginners/voltage-drop-at-breadboard/

Mecanix:
Lets do this another way:

List your minimum requirements for a "Ultimate EE Bench-top Prototyping Breadboard" (shielding, isolated/connected rows/columns or not, sizes, common footprints/pads availability, ideal pitch, contact type, plating choices, min/max electrical tol, etc etc). And I'll share this around in our other ME community and see if someone is up for that task & interested in your market. We have all the high-speed precision tooling, injection molding, micro sheet-metals, both linear & non-linear sim validation, mat properties & cert suppliers db, access to all surface treatments and plating, essentially all the processes and skills to pull off something like this pretty easily.

Thank you for your time! (just trying to be pro-active and help in between rants, can't promise anything but I'll give it a shot for you fine folks)

tooki:

--- Quote from: KE5FX on July 22, 2020, 11:00:10 pm ---
--- Quote from: tooki on July 22, 2020, 05:15:28 pm ---And please, drop the “humble” BS: nothing about your posts here has been even distantly humble. Nothing but haughty proclamations.

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I think you may be missing a cultural idiom or two in this thread, Tooki.  tggzzz is not making a value judgement or sandbagging his own skill set.  He is referring to a general intellectual stance in which an expert, mindful of how it felt when they first entered their field, intentionally tries to replicate the same sense of empowering naïveté in new areas. 

This attitude is explicitly promoted in some companies like Intel, where even the highest level people are expected to spend a lot of time outside their comfort zones.  The idea is to look for places where your intellect and intuition can give you an advantage, but where your ego and reputation don't count for squat. 

In that sense,  an average EE who dives into RF/microwave work is in the same position as an ME who wants to explore EE topics.  Success in either case will boost your reputation, your ego, and maybe even your bank balance... at which point you look for the next thing to tackle as an amateur.

Also, the term 'breadboarding' dates back to when circuits were constructed on literal breadboards.  It can legitimately refer to any method of construction that uses any kind of substrate other than a printed circuit.  Dead-bug construction on bare copper is 'breadboarding,' just like sticking parts into spring clips in a nylon block.

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Cultural idiom?

How is he not sandbagging his skills? Claiming to be an electronics beginner when he’s advanced onto highly specialized, advanced subfields? That’s absolutely ridiculous.

I know where the term breadboarding came from. But it’s come to mean solderless breadboard use, since every other construction method has its own name.

tggzzz:

--- Quote from: tooki on July 23, 2020, 02:56:06 am ---
--- Quote from: KE5FX on July 22, 2020, 11:00:10 pm ---
--- Quote from: tooki on July 22, 2020, 05:15:28 pm ---And please, drop the “humble” BS: nothing about your posts here has been even distantly humble. Nothing but haughty proclamations.

--- End quote ---

I think you may be missing a cultural idiom or two in this thread, Tooki.  tggzzz is not making a value judgement or sandbagging his own skill set.  He is referring to a general intellectual stance in which an expert, mindful of how it felt when they first entered their field, intentionally tries to replicate the same sense of empowering naïveté in new areas. 

This attitude is explicitly promoted in some companies like Intel, where even the highest level people are expected to spend a lot of time outside their comfort zones.  The idea is to look for places where your intellect and intuition can give you an advantage, but where your ego and reputation don't count for squat. 

In that sense,  an average EE who dives into RF/microwave work is in the same position as an ME who wants to explore EE topics.  Success in either case will boost your reputation, your ego, and maybe even your bank balance... at which point you look for the next thing to tackle as an amateur.

Also, the term 'breadboarding' dates back to when circuits were constructed on literal breadboards.  It can legitimately refer to any method of construction that uses any kind of substrate other than a printed circuit.  Dead-bug construction on bare copper is 'breadboarding,' just like sticking parts into spring clips in a nylon block.

--- End quote ---
Cultural idiom?

How is he not sandbagging his skills? Claiming to be an electronics beginner when he’s advanced onto highly specialized, advanced subfields? That’s absolutely ridiculous.

--- End quote ---

Can I suggest you read more slowly before posting.

If you go back and look you will see that you claimed I had forgotten what it was like to be a beginner. I countered that by stating, correctly, that is not the case because I continually find new fields in which I am a beginner. I gave RF as one example; I could give many others.

I'm still mildly curious as to whether your experience (e.g. with Ohm's law) leads you to be able to answer the questions about those RF components and techniques :) Personally I expect that your experience counts for nothing in that field.


--- Quote ---I know where the term breadboarding came from. But it’s come to mean solderless breadboard use, since every other construction method has its own name.

--- End quote ---

Ah yes, the "Humpty Dumpty" position, from a well known book that many children (used to) read: Through the Looking Glass.

"I don't know what you mean by 'glory,' " Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. "Of course you don't—till I tell you. I meant 'there's a nice knock-down argument for you!'"
"But 'glory' doesn't mean 'a nice knock-down argument'," Alice objected.
"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master—that's all."

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