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Offline my67novaTopic starter

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Power Filter for a Generator
« on: October 28, 2018, 04:42:16 pm »
Has anyone come up with a DIY way to clean up power from generator? I want to have nice clean power to run my expensive CNC machines when I run off grid. Gotta keep those angry pixies in line!
 

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Re: Power Filter for a Generator
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2018, 06:01:26 pm »
If it's got a lot of harmonics, a low-pass, or series of notch filters, can help.  Mind that a filter necessarily increases the mains impedance at the fundamental (intended) frequency (i.e., more change in voltage for a change in current, for any change: more droop under load, more peak overshoot when a load is suddenly switched off..).

A ferroresonant transformer isn't much help, because although it will clean up harmonics and stabilize voltage, it won't stabilize frequency; in fact, the reason it works in the first place is because it's a frequency-dependent output, and mains frequency is normally so stable that it can be used as a reference.  Unless your generator has a really good speed control, I'm guessing this isn't going to cut it.

That leaves some kind of frequency converter, which basically means as much hardware as the generator is already (there are low-tech ways to change frequency, but they require a special motor-generator set), or rectifying it to DC and inverting it back to (clean) AC with a true-sine-wave inverter.

You're much better off just replacing the power supplies in your CNC with wide-input types.  Typical switching supplies do 90-250VAC and don't care about frequency, as long as it's not so slow that power drops out between cycles.  Maybe it already uses them and you're fretting over nothing?

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Re: Power Filter for a Generator
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2018, 05:27:26 pm »
I have a couple of online (double conversion) UPSes for exactly this application but I am not driving a big load like machinery with them.  I have seen people use an online UPS to power just the electronics like the readouts while powering the motors directly.  Maybe it would be possible to power everything except the spindle motor from an online UPS?
 

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Re: Power Filter for a Generator
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2018, 06:40:58 pm »
OP: would you be able to give us more info on the generator and CNC equipment and what you're trying to filter out?  There's quite a range.

Among other things, I work with industrial CNC stuff that runs off three phase power.  Most of the power is used in the spindle and axis drives and the rest by the control, pumps and cooling fans.  The sudden current draw when a spindle winds up or an axis rapids would load the generator down and might cause trouble.  If so, as David points out, a UPS might be a good idea.

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