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Electronics => Projects, Designs, and Technical Stuff => Topic started by: asp on January 29, 2014, 11:59:46 pm
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Hi guys
I tried all around the internet to find a service manual for a Cisco Catalyst 3750G ( or a troubleshoot manual for it with test points ) but I could not find any. Could any of you find something close to that?
I need that in order to debug my switch that died some time ago. It throws errors like
"
1 Retry (ASICs Detected 0,configured 7)
MIC Conf reg value 110 0
MIC PCS INfo 0x3
MIC Interrupts received 0x0
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Initially the max3232 died so that is changed now but I still have no idea what made the max blow in the first place. What I want to do is try to find the actual problem why it's not finding the asics. ( could all 7 asics be dead? ). There are 4 max3780 chips that run at around 87 deg celsius and I am thinking that they might be blown as well. The max3780 ( and most of the chips on the board ) seem to run @125Mhz.
The max 3780 chips ( which are used for stacking I think ) get their clock input from a IDT ICS8535-01 ( that is connected to the 125Mhz oscilator ) ( does anybody have any idea how I can test that oscilator with a 25Mhz osciloscope? ) and as I see it the rest of the board gets their clock input via 2 cascaded chips that are CY2CC8100I / twn0537 ( which I think are 1:10 Clock Fanout Buffer ). Till I test the frequency that it works I guess that one of the above chips failed but can't be sure.
Any thoughts?
Thanks
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Below you can find some images of the board and chips. If anybody has any idea please let me know.
Thanks
(http://s27.postimg.org/5xlu4bw9b/20140130_104713.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/5xlu4bw9b/)
(http://s27.postimg.org/6s8dqd43z/20140130_104733.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6s8dqd43z/)
(http://s27.postimg.org/gj5pgc2kv/20140130_104750.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/gj5pgc2kv/)
(http://s27.postimg.org/55j654s27/20140130_105444.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/55j654s27/)
(http://s27.postimg.org/5yvrxqy33/20140130_105454.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/5yvrxqy33/)
(http://s27.postimg.org/a9aftc367/20140130_105522.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/a9aftc367/)
(http://s14.postimg.org/5qyouhkwd/20140130_105522_1.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/5qyouhkwd/)
(http://s27.postimg.org/pjewe9o27/20140130_105552.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/pjewe9o27/)
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Considering that Cisco swap hardware, when you have service contract. I don't think you will find a service manual.
I think you have Buckley's and none of repairing it http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Buckley%27s_and_none (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Buckley%27s_and_none)
Good luck
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Unless it's a simple problem like a broken PSU you won't have much success fixing the switch since Cisco's stuff is full of ASICs. Sorry!
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I will try to order 7 CYNSE70130B chips ( which I think are the ASICs that the software complains about ) since the error message is "1 Retry (ASICs Detected 0,configured 7)". I think I might get around with swapping the 7 chips.
Now I need to check the prices ;)
Thanks
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Hello asp,
I have an out of waranty 3750G-48TS with a problem on a specific asic chip and I came across your post Googling for some resources to identify the asic. Just curious, did you have any luck reparing yours? Personally I haven't removed any heatsinks yet and even if I do, I'm not sure if I can even see a visual indication for a faulty component. My board and output (SSRAM (asic:3, bit: 0) address bus test failed):
(http://i.imgur.com/BxkYhiXl.jpg)
(large: http://i.imgur.com/BxkYhiX.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/BxkYhiX.jpg))
File "flash:c3750-ipbase-mz.122-50.SE5/c3750-ipbase-mz.122-50.SE5.bin"
uncompressed and installed, entry point: 0x1000000
executing...
Restricted Rights Legend
Use, duplication, or disclosure by the Government is
subject to restrictions as set forth in subparagraph
(c) of the Commercial Computer Software - Restricted
Rights clause at FAR sec. 52.227-19 and subparagraph
(c) (1) (ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and Computer
Software clause at DFARS sec. 252.227-7013.
cisco Systems, Inc.
170 West Tasman Drive
San Jose, California 95134-1706
Cisco IOS Software, C3750 Software (C3750-IPBASE-M), Version 12.2(50)SE5,
RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport
Copyright (c) 1986-2010 by Cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Tue 28-Sep-10 12:56 by prod_rel_team
Image text-base: 0x01000000, data-base: 0x02800000
Initializing flashfs...
flashfs[1]: 998 files, 16 directories
flashfs[1]: 0 orphaned files, 0 orphaned directories
flashfs[1]: Total bytes: 32514048
flashfs[1]: Bytes used: 32160256
flashfs[1]: Bytes available: 353792
flashfs[1]: flashfs fsck took 29 seconds.
flashfs[1]: Initialization complete....done Initializing flashfs.
Checking for Bootloader upgrade.. not needed
POST: CPU MIC register Tests : Begin
POST: CPU MIC register Tests : End, Status Passed
POST: PortASIC Memory Tests : Begin
POST: PortASIC Memory Tests : End, Status Passed
POST: CPU MIC interface Loopback Tests : Begin
POST: CPU MIC interface Loopback Tests : End, Status Passed
POST: PortASIC RingLoopback Tests : Begin
POST: PortASIC RingLoopback Tests : End, Status Passed
Waiting for Stack Master Election...
front_end/ (directory)
extracting front_end/fe_type_1 (34760 bytes)
extracting front_end/fe_type_2 (78400 bytes)
extracting front_end/front_end_ucode_info (86 bytes)
extracting ucode_info (76 bytes)
POST: PortASIC CAM Subsystem Tests : Begin
SSRAM (asic:3, bit: 0) address bus test failed
Write: 00000001
Read: 00000008
HTD POST: Address Bus Test Failed
POST: POST Failed
POST: PortASIC CAM Subsystem Tests : End, Status Failed
POST: CAM test failed
POST Failed: disabling stack links and shutting down SDP
driver class subsystem initialization failed
*Mar 1 00:03:35.176: %SYS-3-LOGGER_FLUSHING: System pausing to ensure
console debugging output.
*Mar 1 00:03:35.176: %SYS-2-ASSERTION_FAILED: Assertion failed:
"reg_used_xdr_portid_to_lc_logical_slot()" -Process= "Init", ipl= 0, pid= 3
-Traceback= 1D48638 1D48D84 1CB4B58 11E02CC 11E04BC 257D684 257D71C 1D542F8
1D54534 1A71E14 1A688D8
%Software-forced reload
00:03:35 UTC Mon Mar 1 1993: Unexpected exception to CPUvector 2000, PC =
1A6FE88
-Traceback= 1A6FE88 1A6FE4C 11E02CC 11E04BC 257D684 257D71C 1D542F8 1D54534
1A71E14 1A688D8
=== Flushing messages (00:03:35 UTC Mon Mar 1 1993) ===
Buffered messages:
Queued messages:
*Mar 1 00:03:35.998: %SYS-3-LOGGER_FLUSHING: System pausing to ensure
console debugging output.
*Mar 1 00:03:35.603: %SYS-3-LOGGER_FLUSHED: System was paused for 00:00:00
to ensure console debugging output.
*Mar 1 00:03:35.637: %SYS-3-MGDTIMER: Uninitialized timer, init with
uninitialized master, timer = 37F9600. -Process= "Init", ipl= 0, pid= 3
-Traceback= 1D48638 1D48D84 2575380 2575454 25755D0 219A030 2193F60 2196578
21966E8 22F4F14 22F6054 22F35F0 22F36A4 22FB290 1A6F96C 1A6FE4C
*Mar 1 00:03:35.637: NRGYZ:ERROR:Socket creation failed for UDP
*Mar 1 00:03:35.637: NRGYZ:ERROR:Socket connect fail for 255.255.255.255:0
(13)
*Mar 1 00:03:35.872: %Insufficient flash filespace for extended crashinfo.
Cisco IOS Software, C3750 Software (C3750-IPBASE-M), Version 12.2(50)SE5,
RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport
Copyright (c) 1986-2010 by Cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Tue 28-Sep-10 12:56 by prod_rel_team
Debug Exception (Could be NULL pointer dereference) Exception (0x2000)!
SRR0 = 0x016B6778 SRR1 = 0x00029230 SRR2 = 0x016B5824 SRR3 = 0x00021000
ESR = 0x00000000 DEAR = 0x00000000 TSR = 0x8C000000 DBSR = 0x10000000
CPU Register Context:
Vector = 0x00002000 PC = 0x01A6FE88 MSR = 0x00029230 CR = 0x39000053
LR = 0x01A6FE4C CTR = 0x0259B244 XER = 0xE0000029
R0 = 0x01A6FE4C R1 = 0x0385C8C0 R2 = 0x00000000 R3 = 0x04B650E0
R4 = 0x00000053 R5 = 0x00000005 R6 = 0x00000000 R7 = 0x00000053
R8 = 0x00115880 R9 = 0x00000000 R10 = 0x00000053 R11 = 0x0344AAF0
R12 = 0x98483580 R13 = 0x00110000 R14 = 0x01D544D4 R15 = 0x00000000
R16 = 0x00000000 R17 = 0x00000000 R18 = 0x00000000 R19 = 0x00000000
R20 = 0x00000000 R21 = 0x00000000 R22 = 0x00000000 R23 = 0x00000000
R24 = 0x00000000 R25 = 0x00000000 R26 = 0x00000000 R27 = 0x00000001
R28 = 0x000004A5 R29 = 0x0281AC24 R30 = 0x029B3460 R31 = 0x00000000
Stack trace:
PC = 0x01A6FE88, SP = 0x0385C8C0
Frame 00: SP = 0x0385C8D0 PC = 0x01A6FE4C
Frame 01: SP = 0x0385CB98 PC = 0x01CB4C34
Frame 02: SP = 0x0385CBB0 PC = 0x011E02CC
Frame 03: SP = 0x0385CC00 PC = 0x011E04BC
Frame 04: SP = 0x0385CC08 PC = 0x0257D684
Frame 05: SP = 0x0385CC20 PC = 0x0257D71C
Frame 06: SP = 0x0385CC40 PC = 0x01D542F8
Frame 07: SP = 0x0385CD48 PC = 0x01D54534
Frame 08: SP = 0x0385CD50 PC = 0x01A71E14
Frame 09: SP = 0x00000000 PC = 0x01A688D8
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I did try to identify as many parts of the board as I could since the switches are different.
Can't remember right now what the chips in the first picture in the yellow box are for ( they are some TI chips ).
On the second image it's the chip that I think if faulty on your chip. It errors on CAM memory tests so I think is the third TCAM memory that's fauly. You could try to remove it with a hot air gun or swap it with another one and see if the error and the memory addresses are the same.
This is the relevant part ASIC:3 ( so by my uneducated guess it's the CAM memory on the 3rd ASIC ). If the error is persistent it might either be some resistors on the back or some capacitors ( try to test the tantalum caps on the back of the board as well ) or the asic itself ( or they might have some random numbering of the asics but I guess that is not the case )
Later edit: You might also consider the sram on top of the board as it fails in a stacking subtest
also some hi-res photos would be really good ;)
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POST: PortASIC CAM Subsystem Tests : Begin
SSRAM (asic:3, bit: 0) address bus test failed
Write: 00000001
Read: 00000008
HTD POST: Address Bus Test Failed
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Hope this helps
PS: I had not yet been able to fix mine. I think I will keep this one for spares.