Anti-Drone Airport Defence Systems - Crowdsourcing project.

[GigaJoe]

I'm right, that GPS drone management soft has an embedded no flight map. Means drone that spotted near airport are modded to flight over ?

How about kapron net - shooting to the drone ?

[beanflying]

I'm right, that GPS drone management soft has an embedded no flight map. Means drone that spotted near airport are modded to flight over ?

How about kapron net - shooting to the drone ?

This is a media driven myth if you like. DJI as the worlds biggest producer of drones has Geo Fencing in it's core software and craft they can also be tracked by the DJI tracking units. However not all Drones are DJI and not all other drones have Geo Fencing on their software. Apart from the basic end of the market most other mid to high end ones generally use a base map as part of their software but can be with or without the Geo Fence part.

The Drone sitting beside me on the bench is a DJI Mavic Pro, currently stock but if I hooked it up to the PC and played with it no Geo Fencing restrictions. So it is a software/firmware hack of that software in that case. I won't be doing it btw as Geo Fences are not a bad thing IMO as they can also warn of temporary airspace issues.

If as I suspect this is a tweaked bare airframe made from readily available component parts it will be running nothing proprietary in the way of software and most likely based on something like http://ardupilot.org/ platform I have previously linked. So even if they find or down it nothing much is traceable by way of serial numbers or on board data. Fingerprints DNA and maybe import tracking might help but I doubt it.

[TheNewLab]

OK so how much damage could a drone actually do - maybe take out one engine at best.
Aren't planes designed to be safe if an engine fails, as an engine failure could happen at any time...?

If engine failure happens during takeoff or landing, it may easily cause plane crash. Pilots likely won't have enough leeway to react properly.

Correct, even small birds may cause damage. Anyone notice that spiral part at the center of jet engines?

heard the news too. My first thought was Arduino...Then saw post about a code hack.

Not getting caught?  fingerprints? DNA sample?

[beanflying]

If it was a DJI product that was hacked and they got the air frame but not the pilot it will be serial numbered and much more traceable than one cobbled together from bits. This would leave only DNA Prints etc .... as a way to trace the dickheads if not caught in the act.

[Marco]

If I wanted to make anti-UAV weapon I'd make cheap disposable hunter-killers which shot a bunch of weighted strings at it in close range ... net has too much drag at speed. Put a parachute in the hunter-killer, if the UAV gets tangled with it that's ideal. If it's just disabled and goes to ground, oh well that's probably good enough.

The problem is detecting the UAVs and guiding the hunter killers. You'd need a distributed grid of detectors, working mostly optical in good conditions and using mm wave when there's low cloud cover or fog. There is already research into stuff like this and I can imagine there will be a lot more funding now.

[jc101]

OK so how much damage could a drone actually do - maybe take out one engine at best.
Aren't planes designed to be safe if an engine fails, as an engine failure could happen at any time...?

it isn't just engines, though that would be bad enough. 



1:50 in or so, note this test was as a much lower speed than a large commercial plane on landing or take-off plus a smaller off-the-shelf drone.  Given the damage to the battery pack on impact, and the fuel tanks in the wings, a ruptured LiPo from the drone inside the wing could be quite an event.

[tggzzz]

I'd like to crowd fund about $20M to develop a Defence system for an airport.  Anyone want to contribute 10 bucks.

Possibly, but only after you have told me how you will prove and demonstrate that it works, and I agree those tests are sufficient

[Jan Audio]

And if you go custom then some mates of mine were involved in crossing the Atlantic a few years ago.

What kind of battery has your mates drones then ?

[beanflying]

And if you go custom then some mates of mine were involved in crossing the Atlantic a few years ago.

What kind of battery has your mates drones then ?

Not all 'drones' run batteries  Modified 20cc 4stroke model aircraft engine on spark ignition instead of glow plug for better efficiency.