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uSupply Custom LCD
EEVblog:
--- Quote from: wilfred on October 20, 2017, 12:43:36 am ---Specifically that those who copy an OSHW design to make one for themselves are not entering in to the true spirit of OSHW. And secondly that claiming this project is open source when Dave has basically said right at the bottom of the list is considering OSHW aspects.
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Questions:
What if I gave you the vector image file for the custom LCD, would you still complain?
Would you like the name of the supplier and the part number so you can take advantage of my tooling cost and order it direct yourself in volume? If so, why? If not, why not?
What if I have a custom case because that makes the product that I am selling better? Would you demand the design files for that? Why? for what purpose?
Would you also demand the suppliers name and the part number so you can make use of my tooling cost for that and order direct in volume? Why? If not, why not?
What if I did extensive videos teaching people how I designed the product, how it works etc etc (above and beyond most OSWH people BTW), and released everything but the custom LCD files, would you still still think I'm not doing things "in the true spirit" of it?
Who adds the most value to the community in this case: me who does all the design videos and teaches people everything in detail but retains the say the LCD file, or someone who provides no such design videos, teaches people almost nothing, and simply puts the same files + the LCD file on a Github repo?
jaycee:
The way I see it, making the design open source does NOT exclusively mean it is free for everyone to replicate as they wish. More that it is an open design which others can take and build upon, customise to their needs etc.. or even develop mods/improved software for the end devices Dave produces and sells.
I really hope this freetard ecosystem that has plagued software doesnt start to leak over into hardware too.
wilfred:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on October 20, 2017, 12:44:27 am ---Once again, got proof of that?, or is that just your opinion?
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No proof, It is just my opinion that OSHW projects that are in a single language or use proprietry file formats and so on, restrict access to those who are fluent in the language or can afford the software eg Altium. Hence the project can't as easily draw input from the widest range of community participants. Hence it is my opinion that the metaphor that it faces a steeper hill to ready acceptance is a valid one. And if I'm wrong, what of it?
But I accept completely that you are making a commercial product and generating interesting (also to me) content for the blog. The original uSupply videos remain a favourite of mine.
EEVblog:
--- Quote from: jaycee on October 20, 2017, 12:58:19 am ---I really hope this freetard ecosystem that has plagued software doesnt start to leak over into hardware too.
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Not sure what you mean by "freetard" but I'm pretty sure I know what you are getting it.
There are already two camps in the OSHW industry, those who want everything to be absolutely open as per the "definition" and will not even entertain the idea that their can be value in something less, and those who are more grounded in the real world.
The former consider my OSHW logo idea video tantamount to sacrilege.
EEVblog:
--- Quote from: wilfred on October 20, 2017, 01:02:19 am ---
--- Quote from: EEVblog on October 20, 2017, 12:44:27 am ---Once again, got proof of that?, or is that just your opinion?
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No proof, It is just my opinion that OSHW projects that are in a single language or use proprietry file formats and so on, restrict access to those who are fluent in the language or can afford the software eg Altium.
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Ok, so what if I designed the uSupply in the choice of OSWH champions, Eagle, but it's a bigger board than the free version can open and you have to pay $$$ for the licenses version to modify it. How is that different to say Altium Circuit Studio that costs about the same?
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